World Cup 2010 qualifiers.

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  1. El Diablo Rojo

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    Well, i don't know about the other places but the qualifiers start tomorrow for South America. The system remains the same, the 10 teams play against eachother twice making a total of 18 matches for each side, the top 4 qualify to the World Cup and the 5th to the play-off no longer with the winner of the OFC but the 4th of the CONCACAF. And so the matches for the first matchday. The 2nd matchday will be between the Tuesday and Wednesday.

    Saturday 13/10
    Uruguay vs. Bolivia
    Argentina vs. Chile
    Ecuador vs. Venezuela
    Peru vs. Paraguay

    Sunday 14/10
    Colombia vs. Brazil

    The list of Argentina for these 2 matches.

    Keepers
    Roberto Abbondanzieri(Getafe CF, Spain)
    Oscar Ustari(Getafe CF, Spain)
    Juan Pablo Carrizo(River Plate, Argentina)

    Defenders
    Fabricio Coloccini(RC Deportivo La Coruña, Spain)
    Daniel Diaz(Getafe CF, Spain)
    Martín Demichellis(FC Bayern München, Germany)
    Javier Zanetti(FC Inter Milan, Italy)
    Nicolas Burdisso(FC Inter Milan, Italy)
    Gabriel Milito(FC Barcelona, Spain)
    Gabriel Heinze(Real Madrid CF, Spain)
    Hugo Ibarra(Boca Juniors, Argentina)

    Midfielders
    Fernando Gago(Real Madrid CF, Spain)
    Javier Mascherano(Liverpool FC, England)
    Maximiliano Rodriguez(Atlético de Madrid, Spain)
    Esteban Cambiasso(FC Inter Milan, Italy)
    Jonas Gutierrez(RCD Mallorca, Spain) - Out due an injury.
    Fernando Belluschi(River Plate, Argentina)
    Federico Insúa(CF América, Mexico)
    Juan Román Riquelme(Villarreal CF, Spain)

    Forwards
    Sergio Agüero(Atlético de Madrid, Spain)
    Javier Saviola(Real Madrid CF, Spain)
    Daniel Montenegro(Independiente, Argentina)
    Germán Denis(Independiente, Argentina)
    Lionel Messi(FC Barcelona, Spain)
    Carlos Tevez(Manchester United FC, England)

    And the possible line-up against Chile.

    -----------Abbondanzieri
    -
    -----Demichellis-----G. Milito
    ---Zanetti-----------------Heinze
    -
    --Rodriguez---Macherano---Cambiasso
    --------------Riquelme
    -
    ---------Messi-------Tevez

    A detail, i don't know if this will apply everywhere or only in South America, but from now on for the eliminatory matches the starting players will have to wear numbers between 1 and 11 and the substitutes will have numbers between 12 and 18. Which brings up the question, who will wear number 10 in Argentina? Riquelme or Messi?

    Kaka, Ronaldinho and Robinho the 3 would be starters against Colombia. However Robinho isn't 100% sure, if it isn't him then it'll be Vágner Love.
     
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    Just wondering, has Ayala retired from international football? What about Crespo?
     
  3. El Diablo Rojo

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    Yes, Ayala retired from the national team. And Crespo wasn't called, not sure why, probably Basile considered that he wasn't play that much for Inter lately, but then again he called Riquelme who doesn't even play at Villarreal, thus Basile looks like an hypocrite becaus he said himself that he wouldn't call a player that doesn't have a spot on his club, yet he called Riquelme... And not Crespo, and also i am wondering why Aimar wasn't called either.
     
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    Thanks for the info.

    Yeh, pretty strange Riquelme being called-up on those conditions. That's something a coach like Scolari would do :p
    Anyway, good luck on your next match ;)
     
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    50% riquelme is still better than half the world, that's why
     
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    Good deal, this is exciting already the road for the cup has started....amazing team for Argentina, I am jus shocked they havent won anything since 93...that is just a mistery to me
     
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    Watching Argentina's attackers, I think that the couch is gonna have a hard time benching so many great scorers. But, it's the NT, the players will be much more understanding than in club games, because, it's after all their home country.

    GL to the qualifiers.
     
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    Finally! Agüero on the national team! :D
     
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    good argentine squad.......
     
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    Even if he's without regular football for months now? That's arguable. A player no matter how good he is needs to play regularly on a team.
     
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    ^ Agreed. But Riquelme is Riquelme. Take for example our boy C.Ronaldo. Even if C.Ronaldo is sort of slightly injured or playing at 50% (or less) of what he knows, he will always be called, because he is above the others in skill and reputation. And that has happened some times...just remember that he was in doubt against Armenia and didn't do a sh*t...except that he scored a fantastic goal (H)
     
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    His free-kicks make me wet.
     
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    I hope that Riquelme remembers to score when it really matters, like in Copa America finals or World Cups and not just against small teams...
     
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    yeah but to get to those copa america finals and world cups you have to win against these small teams, mate
     
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    So the scores of the first matchday...

    Uruguay vs. Bolivia 5-0

    Argentina vs. Chile 2-0

    Ecuador vs. Venezuela 0-1

    Peru vs. Paraguay 0-0

    Colombia vs. Brazil 0-0

    And the coming matches, of the 2nd matchday.

    Tuesday 16/10
    Venezuela vs. Argentina

    Wednesday 17/10
    Bolivia vs. Colombia
    Paraguay vs. Uruguay - This should be an interesting match.
    Chile vs. Peru
    Brazil vs. Ecuador

    Oh well so we passed the first test. Mascherano, Zanetti, Cambiasso and Riquelme were the best in my opinion, yes Riquelme didn't play his best game but he scored 2 nice goals, specially the second one. Messi was good not as good as the ones i mentioned before but still good at first he wasn't very participative but he did some nice plays, specially when Agüero came in, maybe they should play together more often. The defense in general was good even though they didn't have too much troubles, good to see that Demichellis is becoming more confident in that position. Maxi Rodriguez and Tevez in similar situation of Riquelme i've seen them playing better but they weren't bad i think that they didn't get too many balls to do anything, specially Maxi.

    It seems that against Chile, Riquelme didn't show too much troubles even after 3 months without playing a match, yes he trains at Villarreal but doesn't play. However he was in the pitch the whole match, i have my doubts on how much fit he'll be against Venezuuela, which won't be an easy one. The starting line up will be the same the only doubt is Heinze but it seems that he'll be ok to play against Venezuela. Argentina dominated in the first half and probably deserved to score another goal, then in the second half not much changed except that the argentine players did more circus with the ball than rather trying to score, too much passes and assistanses but hardly anyone tried to shot.

    And watch out for the bolivian defense.

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    Finally saw the vids on YouTube today. Some very nice FKs this round. That one from Rey(sp?) of Venezuela was ridiculous.
     
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    Oh well the 2nd matchday went away.

    Venezuela vs. Argentina 0-2

    Bolivia vs. Colombia 0-0

    Paraguay vs. Uruguay 1-0

    Chile vs. Peru 2-0

    Brazil vs. Ecuador 5-0

    And so the table for now.

    1- Argentina 6
    2- Brazil 4 +5
    3- Paraguay 4 +1
    4- Uruguay 3 +4
    5- Chile 3 0
    6- Venezuela 3 -1
    7- Colombia 2
    8- Peru 1 -2
    9- Bolivia 1 -5
    10- Ecuador 0

    The third matchday will be played between Saturday 17/11 and Sunday 18/11, with these matches:

    Argentina vs. Bolivia
    Colombia vs. Venezuela
    Paraguay vs. Ecuador
    Peru vs. Brazil
    Uruguay vs. Chile

    About Argentina's match, well not too different from the match against Chile, except that Venezuela had the possesion most of the frst half, though they didn't know what to do with it and once Argentina got the ball and scored the first goal the match was pretty much over. The defense was solid even though the opponent wasn't the big deal, Demichellis was the man of the match was good Milito too and finally he got to score at the national team. Once again, and as usual, good match of Mascherano. Cambiasso were good too, even though Zanetti was playing as a midfielder. Messi improved from the match against Chile. Tevez, Riquelme and Ibarra were ok. Probably the weakest link of Argentina was Burdisso who had a so-so match playing as a left back, by the way he fainted but he just had a slit on his head. Gago played pretty well when he came in Argentina deserved to score 1 or 2 more goals again, it's a pity that Denis couldn't score either.

    I guess it's a bit early but i think that, besides Argentina and Brazil, we'll see Paraguay once again in the world cup, they are doing well and in my opinion they were underrated when the eliminatories started, but hopefully this time they'll do better in my opinion they've been running with bad luck in their last tournaments.

    While i see Paraguay in the World Cup i am unsure about Ecuador, they had the worst possible start and they can't help their luck either, notice that in 3 of the 5 brazilian goals there was a deflection here or there. I see Ecuador struggling for a spot this time.

    Hopefully this time i'll be able to get a ticket to see the match against Bolivia.:rockman:
     
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    Ok here comes the 3rd matchday of the CONMEBOL qualifiers.

    Saturday 17/11
    Argentina vs. Bolivia
    Colombia vs. Venezuela
    Paraguay vs. Ecuador

    Sunday 18/11
    Peru vs. Brazil
    Uruguay vs. Chile

    The list of Argentina.

    Keepers
    Roberto Abbondanzieri(Getafe CF, Spain)
    Mariano Andujar(Estudiantes LP, Argentina)
    Agustín Orión(San Lorenzo, Argentina)

    Defenders
    Fabricio Coloccini(RC Deportivo La Coruña, Spain)
    Hugo Ibarra(Boca Juniors, Argentina)
    Jonathan Bottinelli(San Lorenzo, Argentina) - Replacement of the injured Heinze.
    Javier Zanetti(FC Inter Milan, Italy)
    Nicolas Burdisso(FC Inter Milan, Italy)
    Gabriel Milito(Real Zaragoza, Spain)
    Martín Demichellis(FC Bayern München, Germany)

    Midfielders
    Sebastián Battaglia(Boca Juniors, Argentina)
    Fernando Gago(Real Madrid CF, Spain)
    Esteban Cambiasso(FC Inter Milan, Italy)
    Javier Mascherano(Liverpool FC, England)
    Maximiliano Rodriguez(Atlético de Madrid, Spain)
    Fedrico Insúa(CF América, Mexico)
    Juan Román Riquelme(Villarreal CF, Spain)

    Forwards
    Germán Denis(Independiente, Argentina)
    Lionel Messi(FC Barcelona, Spain)
    Sergio Agüero(Atlético de Madrid, Spain)
    Carlos Tevez(Manchester United FC, England)
    Hernán Crespo(FC Inter Milan, Italy)

    The possible team to play against Bolivia:

    ------------Abbondanzieri
    -
    -------Demichellis-----Milito
    ----Ibarra----------------Zanetti
    -
    -------Mascherano----Cambiasso
    ---------------Riquelme
    -
    ------Messi----------------Tevez
    -------------Crespo/Agüero

    Crespo may not play tomorrow apparently he is injured. Either way this time i won't be missing it since i have my ticket for this match.

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