[WC 2022 & Euro 2020 Beta 2 released] (Unofficial) 2020s add-on for CP14

[V.K]

EURO 2020 + World Cup 2022 Beta 2 released HERE

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Hey all!

As you might know, I am a huge fan of CP14 by @GIGGIRIVA and team, as well as of its 2010s add-on by @Jbou.
However, I am also a fan of the "museum of football" idea and having all major teams/tournaments in the same place.
Since Giggiriva is not interested in modern stuff (but not against custom add-ons), and since Jbou is focused on 2010s, I am very interested in going beyond 2020 and adding the following: European seasons 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23 as well as Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022.

I have all the necessary DBs, kits, balls, adboards, etc. - everything neatly stored on my hard drive (full credit to the original patch creators @Harry BullZak , @Skoczek , @ovide , @valambrosio2 and everyone else involved). My Sputnik bootpack already covers the 2020s and will work automatically with season approproate boots for every team.
The only thing I currently don't have is the skills to assemble all those teams into a single DB.

So what I'm hoping for is someone with enough DB editing knowledge and enthusiasm who'd be interested in compiling a DB like that, while I do my best to assign all the graphics to new team IDs (which would also ideally coincide with the ID matrix envisioned by Giggiriva for future projects).

Or at least someone who'd share the knowledge on how to safely export teams from one DB and safely import them to another without randomly breaking the latter.

The preliminary roadmap looks as follows:

Plan A: minumum
+ add 24 teams from Euro 2020
+ add 32 teams from World Cup 2022
+ add respective stadiums

Plan B: medium
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 20-21
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 21-22
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 22-23
+ add respective stadiums

Plan C: maximum
+ add remaining top teams from top leagues (16 UCL group stage teams per season plus other top teams)
+ add respective stadiums

I guess this can be done on a blank DB (just the 2020s teams) or on the basis of Jbou's latest 2010s DB (if it can handle more teams).
In the end, however, it would be awesome to compile a stable DB going as far backwards (season 2019-20, 2018-19, WC 18, etc.) using CP14 and Jbou add-on's team IDs) as the DB can handle.

I guess with trial and error I will eventually get something working myself, but would be great to cooperate with someone who knows their way with DBs.
From what I can see @arkapd , @ukwe and @mattemazza are already involved in similar endeavors.

Let's add some gems to the museum of football that is CP14 lest they are forgotten among dead links

 

[ovide]

Hey all!

As you might know, I am a huge fan of CP14 by @GIGGIRIVA and team, as well as of its 2010s add-on by @Jbou.
However, I am also a fan of the "museum of football" idea and having all major teams/tournaments in the same place.
Since Giggiriva is not interested in modern stuff (but not against custom add-ons), and since Jbou is focused on 2010s, I am very interested in going beyond 2020 and adding the following: European seasons 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23 as well as Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022.

I have all the necessary DBs, kits, balls, adboards, etc. - everything neatly stored on my hard drive (full credit to the original patch creators @Harry BullZak , @Skoczek , @ovide , @valambrosio2 and everyone else involved). My Sputnik bootpack already covers the 2020s and will work automatically with season approproate boots for every team.
The only thing I currently don't have is the skills to assemble all those teams into a single DB.

So what I'm hoping for is someone with enough DB editing knowledge and enthusiasm who'd be interested in compiling a DB like that, while I do my best to assign all the graphics to new team IDs (which would also ideally coincide with the ID matrix envisioned by Giggiriva for future projects).

Or at least someone who'd share the knowledge on how to safely export teams from one DB and safely import them to another without randomly breaking the latter.

The preliminary roadmap looks as follows:

Plan A: minumum
+ add 24 teams from Euro 2020
+ add 32 teams from World Cup 2022
+ add respective stadiums

Plan B: medium
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 20-21
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 21-22
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 22-23
+ add respective stadiums

Plan C: maximum
+ add remaining top teams from top leagues (16 UCL group stage teams per season plus other top teams)
+ add respective stadiums

I guess this can be done on a blank DB (just the 2020s teams) or on the basis of Jbou's latest 2010s DB (if it can handle more teams).
In the end, however, it would be awesome to compile a stable DB going as far backwards (season 2019-20, 2018-19, WC 18, etc.) using CP14 and Jbou add-on's team IDs) as the DB can handle.

I guess with trial and error I will eventually get something working myself, but would be great to cooperate with someone who knows their way with DBs.
From what I can see @arkapd , @ukwe and @mattemazza are already involved in similar endeavors.

Let's add some gems to the museum of football that is CP14 lest they are forgotten among dead links

Im in.
what database are you going to use?
maybe the others users have exactly the limits in players, kits, leagues, etc

Im expert in dlc folder, creating tournaments. just tell me all about it and you know im in.

another suggestion, add only the stadiums for major tournament but if you add stadiums for every team the ids will be full

 

[Harry BullZak]

Hey all!

As you might know, I am a huge fan of CP14 by @GIGGIRIVA and team, as well as of its 2010s add-on by @Jbou.
However, I am also a fan of the "museum of football" idea and having all major teams/tournaments in the same place.
Since Giggiriva is not interested in modern stuff (but not against custom add-ons), and since Jbou is focused on 2010s, I am very interested in going beyond 2020 and adding the following: European seasons 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23 as well as Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022.

I have all the necessary DBs, kits, balls, adboards, etc. - everything neatly stored on my hard drive (full credit to the original patch creators @Harry BullZak , @Skoczek , @ovide , @valambrosio2 and everyone else involved). My Sputnik bootpack already covers the 2020s and will work automatically with season approproate boots for every team.
The only thing I currently don't have is the skills to assemble all those teams into a single DB.

So what I'm hoping for is someone with enough DB editing knowledge and enthusiasm who'd be interested in compiling a DB like that, while I do my best to assign all the graphics to new team IDs (which would also ideally coincide with the ID matrix envisioned by Giggiriva for future projects).

Or at least someone who'd share the knowledge on how to safely export teams from one DB and safely import them to another without randomly breaking the latter.

The preliminary roadmap looks as follows:

Plan A: minumum
+ add 24 teams from Euro 2020
+ add 32 teams from World Cup 2022
+ add respective stadiums

Plan B: medium
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 20-21
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 21-22
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 22-23
+ add respective stadiums

Plan C: maximum
+ add remaining top teams from top leagues (16 UCL group stage teams per season plus other top teams)
+ add respective stadiums

I guess this can be done on a blank DB (just the 2020s teams) or on the basis of Jbou's latest 2010s DB (if it can handle more teams).
In the end, however, it would be awesome to compile a stable DB going as far backwards (season 2019-20, 2018-19, WC 18, etc.) using CP14 and Jbou add-on's team IDs) as the DB can handle.

I guess with trial and error I will eventually get something working myself, but would be great to cooperate with someone who knows their way with DBs.
From what I can see @arkapd , @ukwe and @mattemazza are already involved in similar endeavors.

Let's add some gems to the museum of football that is CP14 lest they are forgotten among dead links

I'm out. Sorry, buddy. I am retiring after I have finished with what I want to do with FIP.

 

[V.K]

I'm out. Sorry, buddy. I am retiring after I have finished with what I want to do with FIP.

Man I can only imagine the cycle of such a huge mod season after season, thank you and hope you'll be back after a deserved break. It's supposed to be fun, not burnout, I know

Im in.
what database are you going to use?

Awesome!
However that's the first and biggest question. I'm not familiar enough with DB editing.
Would it be a good idea to first take a "blank" DB and just add the new teams there first? With the IDs allocated already by Giggi to avoid future conflicts.
Also it is important to keep CP player data because older players stats should not be changed to 2023 standards (e.g. Hazard shouldn't become fat and old for every team he's ever played) but some players who have improved a lot since 2020 should be the new version (Haaland, Musiala, Saka, etc).

The ideal DB I see, as mentioned, is one that goes from season 22-23 and backwards as far as possible with single year teams. So for this it would probably be integrated with CP and Jbou addon databases.

another suggestion, add only the stadiums for major tournament but if you add stadiums for every team the ids will be full

I don't think there will be too many stadiums to add?
Off the top of my head it should be:
8 WC22 stadiums (if and when the great gonzaga releases the remaining);
4 EU20 stadiums missing from CP stadium pack;
A few major new stadiums such as Madrid Metropolitano, Tottenham Stadium, Leicester KP Stadium.

 

[cruelandriy]

Wow, a dream can come true

 

[cruelandriy]

Hey all!

As you might know, I am a huge fan of CP14 by @GIGGIRIVA and team, as well as of its 2010s add-on by @Jbou.
However, I am also a fan of the "museum of football" idea and having all major teams/tournaments in the same place.
Since Giggiriva is not interested in modern stuff (but not against custom add-ons), and since Jbou is focused on 2010s, I am very interested in going beyond 2020 and adding the following: European seasons 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23 as well as Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022.

I have all the necessary DBs, kits, balls, adboards, etc. - everything neatly stored on my hard drive (full credit to the original patch creators @Harry BullZak , @Skoczek , @ovide , @valambrosio2 and everyone else involved). My Sputnik bootpack already covers the 2020s and will work automatically with season approproate boots for every team.
The only thing I currently don't have is the skills to assemble all those teams into a single DB.

So what I'm hoping for is someone with enough DB editing knowledge and enthusiasm who'd be interested in compiling a DB like that, while I do my best to assign all the graphics to new team IDs (which would also ideally coincide with the ID matrix envisioned by Giggiriva for future projects).

Or at least someone who'd share the knowledge on how to safely export teams from one DB and safely import them to another without randomly breaking the latter.

The preliminary roadmap looks as follows:

Plan A: minumum
+ add 24 teams from Euro 2020
+ add 32 teams from World Cup 2022
+ add respective stadiums

Plan B: medium
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 20-21
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 21-22
+ add 16 UCL playoffs teams from 22-23
+ add respective stadiums

Plan C: maximum
+ add remaining top teams from top leagues (16 UCL group stage teams per season plus other top teams)
+ add respective stadiums

I guess this can be done on a blank DB (just the 2020s teams) or on the basis of Jbou's latest 2010s DB (if it can handle more teams).
In the end, however, it would be awesome to compile a stable DB going as far backwards (season 2019-20, 2018-19, WC 18, etc.) using CP14 and Jbou add-on's team IDs) as the DB can handle.

I guess with trial and error I will eventually get something working myself, but would be great to cooperate with someone who knows their way with DBs.
From what I can see @arkapd , @ukwe and @mattemazza are already involved in similar endeavors.

Let's add some gems to the museum of football that is CP14 lest they are forgotten among dead links

impressive

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

I couldn't help you with player IDs. To avoid problems when I encountered a non-working ID (56050) I started to go backwards starting from ID 300000. In the long run I have now arrived at ID 277531. This was fine with me because, since no post 2010 team creation was foreseen, it gave me a wide range of manoeuvre. But currently EA is close to that ID if not already passed and therefore I can't change ID to the detriment of currently active players. I wouldn't know how and where to put them and it would screw up the backward order started to keep the IDs under control and avoid having a conflict between the decade's DB. Practically there are chances that any player who made his debut in the last 5 years has the ID is already occupied. Ask EA to move them... I occupied them first almost 7-8 years ago XD I arrived first! XD

 

[ovide]

I couldn't help you with player IDs. To avoid problems when I encountered a non-working ID (56050) I started to go backwards starting from ID 300000. In the long run I have now arrived at ID 277531. This was fine with me because, since no post 2010 team creation was foreseen, it gave me a wide range of manoeuvre. But currently EA is close to that ID if not already passed and therefore I can't change ID to the detriment of currently active players. I wouldn't know how and where to put them and it would screw up the backward order started to keep the IDs under control and avoid having a conflict between the decade's DB. Practically there are chances that any player who made his debut in the last 5 years has the ID is already occupied. Ask EA to move them... I occupied them first almost 7-8 years ago XD I arrived first! XD

Gigi how Manu teams, players can a db stand?
Kits...

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Gigi how Manu teams, players can a db stand?
Kits...

I don't understand... you mean without team? Free agent? If you mean that yes.

 

[ovide]

I don't understand... you mean without team? Free agent? If you mean that yes.

I mean 10,000 teams
20,000 players

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

I mean 10,000 teams
20,000 players

No, the database holds a maximum of about 2500 teams to be safe. I have 43269 players in total but I have them all together in databases that don't work. I don't know what the player limit is. Having had the team limit before (which has led to various splits in many databases over the years) I have never had this problem. 20000 maybe holds them but definitely not 10000 teams.
In total I have 4606 teams in the various databases.

 

[ovide]

@V.K here you are the minimun db. basically is empty.

 

[V.K]

@V.K here you are the minimun db. basically is empty.

Thank you!

Yeah I have this DB too. However, I was thinking we should start with CP/Jbou 2010s DB? In order to not replace thousands of players with their properly assigned teams/stats/boots/etc.
E.g. I am imagining a DB where Ibrahimovic is in Milan, LA Galaxy, Man Utd and it's the same Ibrahimovic that we have righ now in CP, not the one from F23 DB.

 

[Jbou]

Hello and good luck for this ambitious project !
In my add-on, a great majority of players have their EA ids. If a player has never appeared in any game, i assigned him to an id around 61000.

 

[ukwe]

I remember GIGGi sent an image with all the id´s for leagues assigned up to 2030, i think that could help for this DB structure.

 

[ovide]

@V.K if you see robbie add all 32 world cup teams their warm up tracksuits so we can convert them to add them as specific benchplayer textures

 

[V.K]

I remember GIGGi sent an image with all the id´s for leagues assigned up to 2030, i think that could help for this DB structure.

Yes, that's exactly the plan.

For those who work on the 2010 decade.

These are the IDs I assigned for 4.0. If you want you can use these.

They are the IDs for the league, therefore, also for the tournament. As you can see there is a row of IDs kept free, I don't know what to do with them yet. They are in an emergency or for some project that will come to mind.

So for example:

Serie A 2012-13 ID 1711
Premier League 2018-19 ID 1754

This means we have league IDs 1767-1787 to work with.
@GIGGIRIVA, any allocated IDs for Euros and World Cups? I guess with CP tradition these will be 2020 and 2022 respectively?

Then there is a matter of team IDs, which should also probably be aligned with CP/2010s addon sequence.
@GIGGIRIVA, any allocated free IDs for 2020s?
@Jbou, how did you coordinate 2010s team IDs?

Lastly, the stadium IDs issue.
This might be the most difficult one as Giggi says those are already limited.
However, personally I have not tested if we can still add some.
In any case, I believe WC'22, Euro '20 and new club stadiums are absolutely essential for this addon, so at the very worst they can be added as "addon to addon", probably replacing some of the more ancient/least unused CP stadiums.

@ovide I'm not too sure how massive mods like the @Jbou 2010s are made adaptable, but I guess we'll need to think about a possibility of CP adding a whole bunch of new stuff, so the 2020s addon needs to be capable of being added on top of potential CP 5.0 for example.

Lastly, if I haven't missed anything, I guess the base DB should be Jbou's latest 2010-20 DB:

DB and LOC from CP14 v4.0 2010s Add-on

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Guess we can test adding 20-21 teams from HBZ FIP patch of that season @ovide

DB and LOC from HBZ FIP 20-21 v3.06 STAD hotfix

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Or start with EURO 2020 and World Cup 2022 as the main competitions, DB by @Skoczek :

euro_ng_db

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

World Cup DB you already have @ovide, if the formations are 100% fixed (though some teams like Costa Rica will need kits edited/removed back to NB from adidas)

NTM 5.0.8

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

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Hello and good luck for this ambitious project !

Thank you!
Please try to get to my PMs when you get the time mon ami

 

[ovide]

Yes, that's exactly the plan.



This means we have league IDs 1767-1787 to work with.
@GIGGIRIVA, any allocated IDs for Euros and World Cups? I guess with CP tradition these will be 2020 and 2022 respectively?

Then there is a matter of team IDs, which should also probably be aligned with CP/2010s addon sequence.
@GIGGIRIVA, any allocated free IDs for 2020s?
@Jbou, how did you coordinate 2010s team IDs?

Lastly, the stadium IDs issue.
This might be the most difficult one as Giggi says those are already limited.
However, personally I have not tested if we can still add some.
In any case, I believe WC'22, Euro '20 and new club stadiums are absolutely essential for this addon, so at the very worst they can be added as "addon to addon", probably replacing some of the more ancient/least unused CP stadiums.

@ovide I'm not too sure how massive mods like the @Jbou 2010s are made adaptable, but I guess we'll need to think about a possibility of CP adding a whole bunch of new stuff, so the 2020s addon needs to be capable of being added on top of potential CP 5.0 for example.

Lastly, if I haven't missed anything, I guess the base DB should be Jbou's latese 2010-20 DB:

DB and LOC from CP14 v4.0 2010s Add-on

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Guess we can test adding 20-21 teams from HBZ FIP patch of that season @ovide

DB and LOC from HBZ FIP 20-21 v3.06 STAD hotfix

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Or start with EURO 2020 and World Cup 2022 as the main competitions, DB by @Skoczek :

euro_ng_db

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

World Cup DB you already have @ovide, if the formations are 100% fixed (though some teams like Costa Rica will need kits edited/removed back to NB from adidas)

NTM 5.0.8

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

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Thank you!
Please try to get to my PMs when you get the time mon ami

I have the kits ready mate , all 2022 world cup!

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Team IDs I can't align with anyone. For example Jbou aligns for its add on to the latest release of the classic. I go backwards exactly like for the players. Here too I encountered a broken ID (131072) and started working backwards from the ID of the first team created for the patch. We are all slaves to IDs. I consume industrial quantities of it and I can't know if an ID works or not. Every time I create a team I text it to understand if this ID works. There may also be a range of crashing IDs but we don't know what they might be. It's up to us to find out.

While I have already assigned league IDs from 1870 to 2030. Probably in the 1870-1890 seasons I will take the IDs useful for the Copa America since the various Italian, German, Spanish and so on did not exist. Still do not know...

 

[V.K]

I have the kits ready mate , all 2022 world cup!

Yeah me too, I specifically selected only WC 22 kits from FNT.
Don't worry about the graphic files.