(Unofficial) 21st Century Add-on for CP14

About winter transfers for single-year team squads :

  • Pre-winter squads (Classic Patch structure)

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  • Post-winter squads

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  • Both (can generate duplicated players)

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  • Total voters
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aalvesgp

Club Supporter
I don't know if I can answer. But if the path is like that of the classic then these are futile things. The main patch does not faithfully follow the seasons but the periods, usually 5 years. This is to have good coverage of teams and players' faces without weighing heavily on the patch. For the same reason, one player is used for many teams. Having the clone for every season of every player is impossible. The database is not enough. For this we use players who have period-based OVRs. There are some clones, especially if they change roles radically or we have had an important growth or decrease in a short time. Ditto for the speech on Rooney and James. Having played only one season they should only be placed on that season's team, if created. otherwise Rooney I think he can easily stay at United while James would not be doing anything for two reasons at Everton. First because you have to put him at Real. and second is more important he played in the 2020-21 championship. so he is no longer 2015-20 but he is already 2020-25. Out of period.
I understand but when it comes to playing with FC Barcelona in the 2011/2012 season, it turns out that Messi, besides having the wrong hairstyle, has a beard, which is incongruous because he started to grow a beard during the 2016/2017 season.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I understand but when it comes to playing with FC Barcelona in the 2011/2012 season, it turns out that Messi, besides having the wrong hairstyle, has a beard, which is incongruous because he started to grow a beard during the 2016/2017 season.
Personally it is a minor detail. Then they will evaluate what to do ...
 

valambrosio2

Senior Squad
Points of view. For me, the mistake is the lack of a player in the team.
for me it's basically a minor detail too, that is seen later. But as you can read, on my addon, finoallafine has already added hundreds of those 1 years teams faces variations. (clubs and nationals teams). The work is huge, and more will be added.
More than this, we need to convert those faces or have them from those already converted (this is why most are assigned on my mod post 2014, example World Cup 2014 players can have a specific face for its World cup 2014 national team (even if NQ team) as soon as the faces was in world cup game 14 for example.
You speak about pre 2014, faces must be converted and assigned, I don't have time for this this is why my friend is collaborating on this and he makes a WONDERFUL job on it!

it's not so easy, otherwise we would already have added the 500 specific faces from world cup 2010 game to all those players in their 2010 national team sqaud. (now that skoczek converted it to fifa 11 maybe it will be easier to get faces from fifa 11 format to fifa 14 one).
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
for me it's basically a minor detail too, that is seen later. But as you can read, on my addon, finoallafine has already added hundreds of those 1 years teams faces variations. (clubs and nationals teams). The work is huge, and more will be added.
More than this, we need to convert those faces or have them from those already converted (this is why most are assigned on my mod post 2014, example World Cup 2014 players can have a specific face for its World cup 2014 national team (even if NQ team) as soon as the faces was in world cup game 14 for example.
You speak about pre 2014, faces must be converted and assigned, I don't have time for this this is why my friend is collaborating on this and he makes a WONDERFUL job on it!

it's not so easy, otherwise we would already have added the 500 specific faces from world cup 2010 game to all those players in their 2010 national team sqaud. (now that skoczek converted it to fifa 11 maybe it will be easier to get faces from fifa 11 format to fifa 14 one).
exact. I meant that for me, and I believe for you too, that we are of a generation where the faces were two square polygons to have even just one version is a lot of stuff! That's why we don't get stuck with a thousand hairstyles. We grew up with players who looked like this XD

 

valambrosio2

Senior Squad
exact. I meant that for me, and I believe for you too, that we are of a generation where the faces were two square polygons to have even just one version is a lot of stuff! That's why we don't get stuck with a thousand hairstyles. We grew up with players who looked like this XD
yes, that exactly this :D
of course I like to play it the more real now as it is possible, but it's a matter of time too, we can not do everything, assigning faces is really time consuming, they are details as we say, pleasant to see when done but not possible alone. This is why I'm really, really grateful to @FinoAllaFineADP who is helping with a work of titan by assigning, converting, by team, by season. Without this, as I said, I would never had the motivation to do this, it's too little details, it's one of the last things to do (if time) but with the help of dedicated people, honestly, that makes more realism than ever.
What a change for us, we were happy before when we get one face published in 128kb :D
 

valambrosio2

Senior Squad
@GIGGIRIVA and look, about details, I created the South American clubs 2015-20 but for kits I don't have time to select and check all variations and most important, so I assign 3 sets for each team:

home/away/gk/third season 2018
fourth/seventh season 2016 home and away
eight/ninth season 2020 home and away

so that makes it easier simply take kit pack 2016/2018 and 2020, each team has several kits from the concerned 2015-20 period.
 

FinoAllaFineADP

Club Supporter
Regarding specific faces, it's a hard work, but i've been doing It with Valambrosio, i'll try to assign each face that you want, Messi's collection is complete, you'll be able to check it once club version could be released, CR7 too, Neymar, and a lot more of players, over and over, but this isn't as easy as just say it, so you'll have to wait a matter of time, once everything could be released you'll be able to check and report, before, just please wait, maybe you're asking for things we've already added.
 

FinoAllaFineADP

Club Supporter
Now we should have something clear, and Giggi already said it, as much specific and detailed faces we add, we'll be weighing more and more the patch, and you'll have to download heavier files each version, just time and no complaint :)
 

aalvesgp

Club Supporter
Regarding specific faces, it's a hard work, but i've been doing It with Valambrosio, i'll try to assign each face that you want, Messi's collection is complete, you'll be able to check it once club version could be released, CR7 too, Neymar, and a lot more of players, over and over, but this isn't as easy as just say it, so you'll have to wait a matter of time, once everything could be released you'll be able to check and report, before, just please wait, maybe you're asking for things we've already added.
I wasn't referring to specific faces but rather the hairstyle of players from each season, for example Messi from 2010 to 2011 doesn't have the same hair as Messi from 2012, 2013 and 2014.
 

valambrosio2

Senior Squad
I wasn't referring to specific faces but rather the hairstyle of players from each season, for example Messi from 2010 to 2011 doesn't have the same hair as Messi from 2012, 2013 and 2014.
hair goes with faces, a face has files for "face" hair hairlod and head folders :(
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
@GIGGIRIVA and look, about details, I created the South American clubs 2015-20 but for kits I don't have time to select and check all variations and most important, so I assign 3 sets for each team:

home/away/gk/third season 2018
fourth/seventh season 2016 home and away
eight/ninth season 2020 home and away

so that makes it easier simply take kit pack 2016/2018 and 2020, each team has several kits from the concerned 2015-20 period.
As a criterion I have always used the season in which a team has won something. In the event of a five-year period stingy with victories, we choose the halfway season, so for the period 1980-85, 1982-83 for the period 1985-90 instead of 1987-88. But I am lucky enough to edit in a time when a kit set was also used for two seasons, so I have a simpler coverage. I use the same criterion when writing the database. I start from the league teams listed above and go back and forth one season at a time. Basically they are always a base "of the years with 3 and with 8". 72-73 / 77-78. 92-93 / 97-98. In this way I am sure that those who have only played one season are out of 11 of the starting line-up, except for important players who may have ended their careers shortly thereafter. But these are rare cases.
 

valambrosio2

Senior Squad
As a criterion I have always used the season in which a team has won something. In the event of a five-year period stingy with victories, we choose the halfway season, so for the period 1980-85, 1982-83 for the period 1985-90 instead of 1987-88. But I am lucky enough to edit in a time when a kit set was also used for two seasons, so I have a simpler coverage. I use the same criterion when writing the database. I start from the league teams listed above and go back and forth one season at a time. Basically they are always a base "of the years with 3 and with 8". 72-73 / 77-78. 92-93 / 97-98. In this way I am sure that those who have only played one season are out of 11 of the starting line-up, except for important players who may have ended their careers shortly thereafter. But these are rare cases.
yep I did exactly the same, I took 17-18 season rosters base, middle of the period :) that's the best way then include missing ones who played several years on the club.

The nice thing with this is that you can easily make 1 year clubs after, I have analyzed your 90s periods, with the 5 years teams is rather easy to make rosters for top 16 UEFA cup teams even top 8 cup winners cup base 1 year teams. Again the major problem is kits :D otherwise there's really few missing teams from the period not at least on 5 years 90-95. Same for other periods, season 07-08 top 16 uefa has only missing Bolton Wanderers not in 5 years... If kits were made in a few time :D
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
yep I did exactly the same, I took 17-18 season rosters base, middle of the period :) that's the best way then include missing ones who played several years on the club.

The nice thing with this is that you can easily make 1 year clubs after, I have analyzed your 90s periods, with the 5 years teams is rather easy to make rosters for top 16 UEFA cup teams even top 8 cup winners cup base 1 year teams. Again the major problem is kits :D otherwise there's really few missing teams from the period not at least on 5 years 90-95. Same for other periods, season 07-08 top 16 uefa has only missing Bolton Wanderers not in 5 years... If kits were made in a few time :D
exact. That's why we decided to dedicate a lot of space to single season teams. For every important team from 1955 to 2010 we have the main backbone. Just missing those players who have played .1-3 seasonal appearances, third goalkeepers, some young aggregates from the youth teams. They are usually players with an OVR 58-69. On average, 3-5 players are missing per season for each top-tier team.
 

Jbou41

Club Supporter
Happy new year everyone !!

man,the 2010-2015 and 2015-2020 allstars teams from the original classic patch are missing.Can you add them back?
Yes, I can, I won't forget them in the next update.

For the missing UCL teams, why don't simply take existing databases, change team id and export import the cmps?
The way i work is surely not the most efficient but it allows me to keep a full control on every players and teams i add in the game.

I think you definitely must add AS St Etienne 2015-20, Feyenoord 2010-15 and Rangers FC 2015-20 at least :)
These are in the plan ;) Actually, i'm working on next version : it will contain every single UCL teams of 2010s, new european 5-year teams and an overhaul of some existing teams.

Can the Classic Patch selector be updated to new version?
It will be updated but this is not a priority, it has to be fixed a lot ! It could be great if CP Selector edited by itself the FIFA database (no need to import tables through DBMaster) but it seems rather impossible.
 

FinoAllaFineADP

Club Supporter
These are in the plan ;) Actually, i'm working on next version : it will contain every single UCL teams of 2010s, new european 5-year teams and an overhaul of some existing teams.
Jbou, could you fix something for next version pls? There's some winter transfers missing, for example Osvaldo is not at Juventus 13-14, and some more. Thanks :)
 


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