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UEFA Champions League 2009-2010

Sevillista

Starting XI
Nady;2860048 said:
I think the more striking thing in this picture is the 9 defenders Inter have in one area. It's a wonder they still gave up a goal.

In response to some of the arguments I've been reading here (but don't care to find exact quotes/sources:

Barca are cheaters

Every team has some divers/actors. On Barca it's Busquets, Alves, and sometimes Puyol. Barca aren't any more guilty than other teams, and the whole team should not be labeled based on the behavior of a few. Because this was a CL semifinal and the red card was pivotal, Busquets was under a microscope for his overreaction. If the ref hadn't shown a card, we wouldn't be talking about this.

What did you expect Inter to do against Barca?

You can argue that parking the bus was simply the best way to beat Barcelona and that it's respectable. But if you're going to say that, you can't turn around and criticize Barcelona for not creating more chances. In fact, if you're arguing that this is the only way to beat Barcelona, you're paying them quite a compliment.

We don't know how Inter would have played if they had 11 men



We all know damn well what would've happened. It's Mourinho. And before the red card, Barca still had 80% possession. Motta would've just been one more player to defend.

Any team in the world would have done the same in the Camp Nou

With less success. I don't agree with Inter's tactics, but I was impressed by their execution.

Pede: Platini conspiracy
Mhmmm. Enjoy boycotting the World Cup.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
pede54;2859981 said:
Yeah I remember. A lovely goal it was too Arnau, but thats nothing when you consider we got REFUSED four stonewall penalties in one game by your referee. I'm not even going to mention all the other games you were gifted.

I'm telling you mate, when Platini decides to no longer look after Barcelona, you are going to find success much harder to come by. Enjoy it while you can.

Those "stonewall" penalties where already discussed here thousands of times, and I already said then that the only penalty was at Pique handball.

I have to ask you again since I think you didn't want to reply. How about the way you qualified in 2005? How about the penalty we had in Camp nou? How about the "stonewall" red card Abidal was given?

And you are speaking about Barça fans being biased. WTF?! Platini conspiracy?! Cheaters team?! Like Sevillista said, everyteam has some divers like Busquets, and Alves (I already said I don't like those things!). How about Drogba's electroshocks on the field? :)

MaestroZidane;2859998 said:
that gif gives us something to use in the future whenever a barca complains about cheating.. (H)

OK. But I'll use this everytime you complain about Busquets:(



Or this:


Socrates;2860087 said:
Some more from Mourinho

"At 4am we couldn't sleep, as there were fireworks outside the hotel door. We called the police at 11pm and they arrived at 3.30am. A player like Samuel Eto'o who comes back here every few days was harassed by police today when told he had to pay taxes not paid in 2005."

Very classy bunch indeed, and to turn on the sprinklers on the Inter side of players/fans a couple mins after the final was the most classless I have seen in a long time. Can't blame Mourinho for going nuts.

I'm not going to argue with you. I already said what award you could win in this forum. But, if we're talking about fans, this is you way of supporting your team:



You came here more pathetic then you've ever been before. Same for KingPaulV. How pathetic...


Beside the elimination, I'm sad about the fantastic match Pique made, but he wasn't mentioned by anyone. :( Fantastic player, definitely best defender in the world. Not for the class he showed at the goal, but for the entire match he did.
 

adedawson

Senior Squad
Help?;2860149 said:
They were playing with a man up and yet all I ever saw with 3-4 players at most in the box waiting for crosses.

When Chelsea or United are pressuring teams like that, they pack that mother****er up with 6-7 players, how are you gonna score from a cross when you are twice outnumbered?

And the fact that your central defender was your best forward today because he was the only one to recognize a need for a different approach is a cause for concern too.

Now that's a very good point. This talk about Inter parking the bus with 10 men, playing anti football is rubbish. Yes its hard and frustrating but Barca didn't do much to combat the problem.

They should of been far more pressuring inserted a lot more players forward and just bombarded them. Even the commentators were saying very early on that Barca need to do more if they want to win.

Wrong move to take zlatan off A nice tall point man like him would of been perfect the longer the game went on.

And before inter went down too 10 men it wasnt like inter wearnt attack. I'll give two example from some commentary.

2012: Pedro is the second man in the book tonight, the Barca winger unable to catch up with the marauding Samuel Eto'o and hauling him down.

2010: Inter break, and suddenly Samuel Eto'o is inside the Barca area with what looks like acres of space - but after the Cameroonian takes the ball down, Pedro quickly gets back in to touch it behind and avert the danger.
 

Jaboldinho

Fan Favourite
Can't say I'm surprised by the huge number of comments in this thread. After all, we've seen how much others seem to enjoy when Barca are defeated, especially as some of the fans are on the arrogant side.

I don't think there's much need for these sort of arguments discussed here. The "handball" in the end left a sour taste in my mouth, but still, we couldn't perform on the level we're supposed to in 2 of the most important matches of the season. We were beaten, deservedly, that's it.

Sure, it's clear we missed Iniesta, when we are up against that type of defending, Xavi can't be left alone creating the chances - now we had to put Messi there to help him, which took away from some kind of other approach.

Once again, as last year against Chelsea, I don't believe (in either leg) that the referees were biased towards either team - they were just overall bad. Maicon got like 5 throw-ins/corners/goal-kicks in his favor when he was the one putting it away. Sergio is a disgrace, I've always said that. I don't know what Pep sees in him, Yaya is a much better DM, Sergio is only better with the ball in his feet, and that's debatable too, and his diving are a constant sore to my eyes. Inter did a good job at that too, but it was expected.

We all knew what was going to happen, and I knew, that if we didn't score in the first half an hour, we'd be in trouble. It just empowered Jose's team and deflated ours.

Some ridiculous behaviour in this thread, though - from both sides. Fellow cules, we lost, no need to make endless excuses. Maybe we were a bit unlucky, but that's football, or any sports for that matter. And you others, say Socrates. You leave the forum "forever", when your team hits a hard patch, only to come back and needle at your rivals when they're finally beaten. You are one petty little man.
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the ref correct in signaling a hand ball? It doesn't matter if it was intentional or not, it played advantageously off his hand and led to the goal. Whether it was intentional or not is a question of carding the player.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
Didn't touch it and the arm were close to the body. But i can understant it seems handball in live.
 

dimo

Youth Team
ShiftyPowers;2859825 said:
Cocky ass mother****ers need to sit the **** down.

x2

I use to like Barca, but their fans are more super annoying. Sorry boys, you guys reached the final last year with the refs help. Again with the Ref's "assistance", you twats had 70min to score 2 goals. Justice:33vff3o: Now, I hope somehow Real can snatch the title (Y)
 

simakperrce

Reserve Team
Help?;2860149 said:
To be honest, you could see Inter eliminating Barcelona from a mile away before the first leg even started. Barcelona's style is too well-suited for Inter's defense. Barca is terrible at crosses or long balls and there were quite a few discussions in these forums before about Barcelona being a one-style team. Once you block their path to the goal on the ground, they become clueless. There is no plan B, there is no tactic that you switch to in case a team parks the bus. They were playing with a man up and yet all I ever saw with 3-4 players at most in the box waiting for crosses. When Chelsea or United are pressuring teams like that, they pack that mother****er up with 6-7 players, how are you gonna score from a cross when you are twice outnumbered? And the fact that your central defender was your best forward today because he was the only one to recognize a need for a different approach is a cause for concern too. This shows a lot of weakness in Guardiola's coaching abilities. Mourinho said it himself once at Chelsea "you can't play every team the same way" and Guardiola knows only 1 way. It was the same thing against United two years ago. Barcelona dominated and yet had no plan B, since their plan A wasn't working

Spot on. That's also the reason why I think they are incredibly overrated. Yes, last year they did play in a league of their own and it was nice to watch them (minus the Chelsea legs maybe), but in the end their game is more and more becoming a one-trick pony. When it works well, and the opponent is suited, it's all very nice and swell and aesthetic and 'football gourmet food', but when you play as compact as Inter last night, or as ManU back then, or even as Chelsea last year it all crumbles and becomes a mindless, uninspired, shallow, lemming-like endeavor that isn't even fun to watch anymore.

Stuff like Busquet's c*nt-ish play-acting or the fact that they turned on the sprinkler right after the match adds to the growing dislike I have for this club, which more and more comes across like a spoiled, whiny child which doesn't understand that its beauty alone won't win 'em all in life.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
What the hell with Busquets, he use to dive but didn't kill anyone, worse are the violent players. Inter ones dive all the match and looks like they are heros because put 9 mans in the box and lost the match. We lost the semifinal in Milan, not yesterday.

simakperrce;2860297 said:
Spot on. That's also the reason why I think they are incredibly overrated.

Doesn't make sense. We won everything in 2009 for the first time ever in football history, now we are in top of table with 87! points and lost the CL in the semifinal fighting till the last second. What we are making this season after won everything in the last one its awesome.
 

dimo

Youth Team
Arnau;2860285 said:
Not sure about that but you probably only know barça fans from SG, where 99% are foreigners.

Ah, those fans harassing Mou seem to be from Barcelona. Cry babies all of them. But I'll agree there's a lot of bandwagoners from SG. What an odd coincidence that they pick one of the best teams in the world to support. It must have been a hard choice between Espanyol and Barca:icon_spin:

Remember kids, always ask yourself this question in any situation....



Q: WHAT WOULD JOSE DO?

A: STAY FANTASTIC AND BE CHAMPIONS
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
Mourinho had become a barça enemy sinze 2004, personally i don't hate him, he makes his job, but is classless and when you insult a club and provocate their players and fans that reaction in the people can happen... He's a great coach and a winner but i rather people like Pep and fortunately Laporta & Co too in 2007. Still don't know what do you have against Barça and their fans.
 

Pogba4Now

Team Captain
You guys are overreacting to his celebration. He didn't provoke Barca fans in ANY way. He didn't run to the Barca dans and celebrate in front of them a la Adebayor did he? Barca fans might be irritated by the way he celebrated, but he's well known to celebrate like that.

When he defeated us in 2003 or 2004 with Porto he celebrated the same way BEFORE the match ended... Does that mean he hates United too? No! He stated few months ago that he would love to become manager at united. That's his way of celebrating... If there's a moron then its Valdes. What's his right to stop Mourinho from running to his Inter fans and celebrating? That was idiotic from Valdes.
 


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