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TV Shows aka Sir Didier being upset that non-hipsters like Game of Thrones

Mandieta6

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Ask any author to write the same story for years and years on end and he will probably dip, too. That's why I distnguish between a drop and a reason-defying plummet like with HIMYM.
 

Bobby

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It is difficult to keep it going, that's why I give WWE so much credit. They're writing at least three new TV shows every week.
 

yoyo913

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Mandieta6;3650549 said:
I think every show that goes beyond 4-5 seasons drops.

Curb Your Enthusiasm's last season, the 8th one, was the best one yet imo. The previous one, 7th, was really good too.
 

Mandieta6

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One season being better, or peaking late doesn't mean the show hasn't had a dip in quality at any point. It just might not be a gradual decline like in most cases. There will be exceptions, but most shows work like this. Even Breaking Bad's last season wasn't as strong as those preceding it.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
yoyo913;3650660 said:
Curb Your Enthusiasm's last season, the 8th one, was the best one yet imo. The previous one, 7th, was really good too.

And the 6th as well! I still consider "The Freak Book" my favorite comedy episode of television ever.
 

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Mandieta6;3650734 said:
One season being better, or peaking late doesn't mean the show hasn't had a dip in quality at any point. It just might not be a gradual decline like in most cases. There will be exceptions, but most shows work like this. Even Breaking Bad's last season wasn't as strong as those preceding it.


You're crazy. Breaking Bad shifted a bit once Gus died, but it was still awesome. I don't think it ever dipped, and most importantly, they knew when to end it as opposed to other shows... coughDextercough.
 

Mandieta6

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I didn't say it was bad, didn't even say it dipped. Said it wasn't as strong. Breaking Bad is one of the exceptions to the rule, but they only did 6 seasons, which were the equivalent of what, 3-4 regular seasons? Credit to them for quitting on a high rather than try to milk it and ruin its legacy.

Arrested Development didn't dip either, but that got cancelled after the 2nd season so it hardly counts.
 

Alex

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Two and a Half Men has certainly shown how a sitcom can dip. It read never great, but went downhill big time as it went on.

I don't mind Big Bang, prefer it to HIMYM to be honest, but I basically never watch it now, as the channel that has the rights here play repeats of it over and over and over. They've flogged it to death.

Ricky Gervais always says that he keeps his series' short for exactly the reason we're mentioning here. He thinks it's impossible to produce a show of the quality he wants to produce after a handful of seasons.
 

O-car

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MaestroZidane;3650588 said:
Another series that was great but then went downhill (although you have to blame ABC for that one), was Scrubs. I truly enjoyed that show and the first ending was great. After that, it was no longer the original Scrubs show, it was just a new cast with the same name.

I read somewhere that they had pretty much been cancelled by ABC so they started working towards a finale, then they got picked up for an extra season.
As a Scrubs fan I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the 9th season, it felt like such a kick in the nuts after season 8's finale.

in regards to the dip in quality shows go through, that's to be expected when shows get dragged on too long... I always imagine the pitch meetings like depicted in the South Park episode Awesome-O...

Friends definitely declined in the latter years, The Simpsons, Family Guy(I remember an interview I read a while ago where Seth McFarlane talked about wanting to end Family Guy, but couldn't do to it's popularity), Dexter became awful towards the end, and even the inclusion of an Icelandic actor as the main villain in the last season didn't help...

That's what I like about British shows, they go for 2-3 seasons tops, so you don't get the awful filler episodes/story lines because there's 24 episodes to fill in a season....
 

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Pedro
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MaestroZidane;3650588 said:
Another series that was great but then went downhill (although you have to blame ABC for that one), was Scrubs. I truly enjoyed that show and the first ending was great. After that, it was no longer the original Scrubs show, it was just a new cast with the same name.


I refuse to watch the last season, but I heard it was garbage. Really, after the 6th season or so it wasn't nearly as good. They relied too much on JDs 'imagination' and Cox off color humor way too much whereas it used to be a lot more well rounded in the prior seasons. They also had good character development and in the latter seasons it was mostly about appearances of certain celebrities. It basically tailed off horribly and it became utterly unwhatchable after the writer's strike.
 

MaestroZidane

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Scrubs before the strike was great. Anything after that was complete garbage. You are wise to stay away from that season

O-car;3651484 said:
I read somewhere that they had pretty much been cancelled by ABC so they started working towards a finale, then they got picked up for an extra season.
As a Scrubs fan I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the 9th season, it felt like such a kick in the nuts after season 8's finale.

in regards to the dip in quality shows go through, that's to be expected when shows get dragged on too long... I always imagine the pitch meetings like depicted in the South Park episode Awesome-O...

Friends definitely declined in the latter years, The Simpsons, Family Guy(I remember an interview I read a while ago where Seth McFarlane talked about wanting to end Family Guy, but couldn't do to it's popularity), Dexter became awful towards the end, and even the inclusion of an Icelandic actor as the main villain in the last season didn't help...

That's what I like about British shows, they go for 2-3 seasons tops, so you don't get the awful filler episodes/story lines because there's 24 episodes to fill in a season....

How can I forget Dexter, it is a perfect example of how a great series can go down the shitter. All seasons after the fourth season are a joke.
 

O-car

Starting XI
Simple reason for that decline, the original show runner and the head writer both left the show after season 4

I think one of the biggest downfalls for the show was how they tried too hard to make Dexter into a regular human being, with feelings and all. If you read the novels for example he's still faking his emotions and all that. There's a line in the newest novel where he's asked to describe his wife, and after thinking about it he can only reply with, she's a great cook..
I also think they should have kept Doakes and Rita on longer

The 5th and 6th season had its moments, but failed in the bigger picture, did not really care for Julia Stiles' character... The seventh was a joke, the last season.... too many red herrings that were being thrown at us, and it kinda felt like that they got to the last 2 episodes and then remembered that they were ending the show soon...

I get really mad sometimes thinking about the direction they went with in the show when I'm reading the novels, because there are several of them I'd have loved to see on TV instead...
 


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