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The Arsenal Thread [2005/06]

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ngyc

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there is a news from chinese newspaper said arsenal approach to a 18 years old marseille players, who is that player?

edit: samir nasri? :confused:
 
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Frostwolf

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shokz said:
Ashley Cole is a disgrace, he simply doesn't deserve Arsenal. If Wenger and Dein are seriously not going to consider the option of selling to the highest bidder now, then they should let him rot in the reserves for two years - putting his England place in jeopardy in the process - and give Clichy the #3 shirt, that lad has bags of talent. Less fµckwits like Ferdinand and Cole and more of the likes of Terry and Carragher is what football needs right now.

According to the Premier League commission which ruled on the tapping-up scandal on Wednesday, Cole pulled no punches in his conversation with the Chelsea hierarchy when he said that Arsenal had no team spirit, was run by the French players and he would rather be at Stamford Bridge.


Aw pwoud, very pwoud. (H)
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Agree, except for Terry? Terry is nearly as dimwitted as Ferdinand, actually. The only reason he seems to be a quiet honest worker is that he's too ******* thick to know how to speak.
 
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pede54

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According to the Premier League commission which ruled on the tapping-up scandal on Wednesday, Cole pulled no punches in his conversation with the Chelsea hierarchy when he said that Arsenal had no team spirit, was run by the French players and he would rather be at Stamford Bridge.


Thats funny 'cos Sol Campbell said the same thing about the Frenchies at Arsenal and the lack of team spirit....part of the reason that he has been frozen out as a matter of fact.

Frostwolf....you talk outa your arse dude....Your mob would give anything to have Terry in your back four......think before you speak man 'cos you always end up looking silly......... :ewan:

Why do Gooners have such a pathetic attitude towards Cole now?If your boss promised you a raise and then when the time came he said "No ,bollocks i aint gonna pay you what i said i would"...what would you do?....Take it like a pussy or say "f.u.c.k. you ass hole you can stick your job up your ass".....i know what i would do....because i've done it before.You idiots should be annoyed at your club for treating one of your players this way.You have a wierd and warped sense of perspective........... :kader:
 
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jigger37

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pede54 said:
Why do Gooners have such a pathetic attitude towards Cole now?If your boss promised you a raise and then when the time came he said "No ,bollocks i aint gonna pay you what i said i would"...what would you do?....Take it like a pussy or say "f.u.c.k. you ass hole you can stick your job up your ass".....i know what i would do....because i've done it before.You idiots should be annoyed at your club for treating one of your players this way.You have a wierd and warped sense of perspective........... :kader:
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Sad that a chelsea fan has to be the one to come and say this. I'm sad and disappointed about the public meeting, cole should not have been there, but arsenal are not blameless.
 
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Dreath

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From my knowledge Wenger didn't promise him a pay rise. Ashley Cole was not happy with his contract, fair enough. So he went out to get a new one, illegally, Arsenal are not completely innocent because hypothetically we should of given him a great contract or something like that. But the problem is, is that you can't do that with football contracts. It's not so simple like in FM where you offer 80k and they sign and everyone's happy. Daved Dein is not stupid, he's a very astute guy who knows the financial constraints Arsenal are under. If he can only offer 55k a week to Ashley and he wants 60k, that is all he's going to offer. No player is bigger than his club, and never should be.
 
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pede54

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Wenger and Dien promised him 60K....Hill Wood is the one who said no.This is recorded as fact in the PL enquiry.As for Dein....he has had more companies fold under his chairmanship than i've had hot dinners....the facts are there to find....just type his name into Google
 
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pede54

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One from alan Davies ...a gooner......the other telling us how much money he has made off your club........SO?...dig deeper for the stuff that you dont really wanna know
 
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jigger37

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Dreath said:
From my knowledge Wenger didn't promise him a pay rise. Ashley Cole was not happy with his contract, fair enough. So he went out to get a new one, illegally, Arsenal are not completely innocent because hypothetically we should of given him a great contract or something like that. But the problem is, is that you can't do that with football contracts. It's not so simple like in FM where you offer 80k and they sign and everyone's happy. Daved Dein is not stupid, he's a very astute guy who knows the financial constraints Arsenal are under. If he can only offer 55k a week to Ashley and he wants 60k, that is all he's going to offer. No player is bigger than his club, and never should be.
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Wenger also questioned if it was worth losing the player for the difference, but its short sighted to think of it in terms of that difference in amount, rather than on principle. He is one of the senior team players(experience in the team than age) and a home grown player at that and has always been loyal, his actions with regard to a very public meeting are very disappointing, but arsenal cant be allowed to have the uper hand without a challenge, this is the basis for any negotiation in almost all contractual negotiations in pretty much any field.

I consider it a lame argument also that issue of 'being bigger than the club' thing comes up, dein was on tv mid last week and was talking about how we pay our top players at comparative market rates, and until this came up some were going on about how he was the best left back,but arsenal after initially agreeing to the contract, then backtracked who wouldnt be pissed off,and what kind of impression are the club giving, especially as this is not the first time something like this has happened. Edu revealed the games arsenal were playing with him, and after hed already been pissed off and made up his mind he was leaving, arsenal then came up with the what he had asked for all the while, same with wiltord and now pires, you can argue the age issue with those guys but it just even makes arsenal position over the cole affair more ridiculous.
 
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bigp

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It's not the fact that Cole was trying to get a new deal or whatever. It's the fact that he's appealing the decision against him claiming he has a right to find other job opportunities while still under contract. Sports is an entirely different business compared to other regular jobs and he signed a contract KNOWING what the rules are.

He can leave as there are other talents that Wenger can unearth. I don't even care about him being a homegrown player as it doesn't even matter considering we have enough already.
 
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