Spain's Problem

[panxoman]

The bull: maybe for you that is 1939 to 1975 and Bullfighting. But for other people that dont focus his life into politic things all the time, the bull just mean a symbol of the spain of our fathers, the bull is a symbol of spain, is not only about bullfighting cause most young people hate that but feel proud of that symbol. I dont know about you, but when i was a child i saw lot of big "bulls ads" in every spanish road, so for me is just a symbol of Spain cause that.

Centralism? Dont make me laugh. BTW, sorry to dissapoint you but actually Spain is one of the countries with less centralism in Europe. But in Cataluña people ignore that, cause they need a demon to fight every day.

Some spaniards have a bull in the flag = Every catalan car have a "burri" sticker in his back. What a stupid and big reaction, honestly, sometimes catalan looks they are waiting to jump over Spain. Freedom for Spain !! Dont you think you are being the intolerant now ?

Let us have the ******* bull, is not disrespect to Cataluña. Sick Brains.

Somethimes I regret the english fleet didn't arrive a week earlier to Barcelona in 1714 to help us.

How are we waiting to jump over Spain? who has done a boicot to catalan product? whose army had an important general a year ago who threaten catalonia with sending the tanks?

We are only asking for our rights at our home. You're all the time talking about what we should do at our home. Do what you want in your home but don't order me what to do in mine.

and you still wonder why many peole here don't care about the spanish NT?

so....uh Im so lost in this discussion. Does this mean Cataloniains dont support the NT?
Why is it called basque "country" btw

depends on who, depends on the sport, depends on the match. I would say that more than not supporting is just don't care

and I don't now why it's called "basque country". You can also call it Euskadi. That's how the basques call it.

 

[Crusad3r]

Somethimes I regret the english fleet didn't arrive a week earlier to Barcelona in 1714 to help us.

How are we waiting to jump over Spain? who has done a boicot to catalan product? whose army had an important general a year ago who threaten catalonia with sending the tanks?

We are only asking for our rights at our home. You're all the time talking about what we should do at our home. Do what you want in your home but don't order me what to do in mine.

and you still wonder why many peole here don't care about the spanish NT?




depends on who, depends on the sport, depends on the match. I would say that more than not supporting is just don't care

and I don't now why it's called "basque country". You can also call it Euskadi. That's how the basques call it.

Honestly, your sick is brain.

That spanish general was kicked BTW, so the thinking of one man is = whole spain?

Is Cataluña who boicoted Spain several times, but maybe you only wanna see when you are attacked but you forget all the bad things Catalans do...

For everyone in this forum, Panxoman thinking style is the usual style of catalan people, sadly, they keep complaining all the time for stupid things, they see another reality where they are attacked all the time,

Just see, he keep talking about things that happened in 1714 without any sens (they have a different history, since they are always the good guys)

For all the foreigners, Madrid is criticised, insulted, all the time, and noone whine here. But Catalans are 100% complains. You cannot say something about them or they say "In 1714 blablablabla", like panxoman.

Your brain sick. Im sorry for you.

 

[snoppf1]

imo the problem in spain is partly down to all this 'basque', and 'catalonia' thing, which has its infulence.

what i mean is that the players from these 'spanish states' dont feel the same love for their county than their 'provinence e.g. and englishman would also call himself british, but a scotsman, welshman or northern irishmn would just say they were scottish, welsh or irish respectively.

So when times get hard, they dont put in the effort unlike other nations do, over time, spanish players have lost the sense of pride putting on the jersey and its imo lead to a serious mentality problem.

its like raul in the world cup just gone, "I dont usually celebrate my birthday in international tornamentes, were usually out by then" not exacty but that the basis of what he said, its like that game against france showed all everything, whn the game was turning in frances favor and they got the secound goal it was like, "ah f*ck it were going out again, we know it. I noticed torres had totally given up near the the end, he had trouble even controlling the ball.

I fseethe spain team now are right now at the phase where its like, 'oh well were going out, at least its quick this time'. I hope no spaninsh person takes this the wrong way

 

[panxoman]

Honestly, your sick is brain.

That spanish general was kicked BTW, so the thinking of one man is = whole spain?

Is Cataluña who boicoted Spain several times, but maybe you only wanna see when you are attacked but you forget all the bad things Catalans do...

For everyone in this forum, Panxoman thinking style is the usual style of catalan people, sadly, they keep complaining all the time for stupid things, they see another reality where they are attacked all the time,

Just see, he keep talking about things that happened in 1714 without any sens (they have a different history, since they are always the good guys)

For all the foreigners, Madrid is criticised, insulted, all the time, and noone whine here. But Catalans are 100% complains. You cannot say something about them or they say "In 1714 blablablabla", like panxoman.

Your brain sick. Im sorry for you.

I remember it was it was IceBlue who said you're dumb, and maybe he was not wrong. You've disapointed me.

First, you say that a football match between Catalonia and Basque NT is an act of terrorism.

Second, I made a correct post that you misundestand (look at william post) and instead of saying "Ops, I misunderstood", you keep attacking.

And third, why all this hate against the catalans? I still say, I don't tell you how you have to live, think or talk at yor home. Why do you think you have the right to tell me to me so.

And why if I disagree in somthing you call it terrorist act? I don't denny you're right of expresing as you want, why do you do whih catalans.

That's the problem most people have in Spain. You don't accept any opinion different of the Spain in what you believe, which is the Spain that only has a center Madrid and have to obey and feed it. (poor madrid whose airport has a new terminal that costed "only" 6000 million euros)

Until you learn to respect the rest of people who live in the territry called Spain, you won't have all the love you think you deserve.

By the way, if someone complain, if catalans complain, if basques complains, it's because that some problem are not solved yet, and maybe it's the one's who don't complain fault.

maybe you consider a stupid thing to have a culture, to have a NT or something as "self-determination right" (I don't know if this is the correct english expression, but those are right respected by the UN, not by most spanish.

Now keep on talking to the forum about me about as an exemple of the evil catalans as if you were a preacher. . but don't feel sorry for me. It sounds ridiculous.

 

[Crusad3r]

I remember it was it was IceBlue who said you're dumb, and maybe he was not wrong. You've disapointed me.

First, you say that a football match between Catalonia and Basque NT is an act of terrorism.

I stopped reading there,

why do you need to lie?

Bye.

 

[Sevillista]

I didn't even bother joining this discussion. This is an endless debate and I'm sick of discussing it.