Spain vs Italy [P+R+Why Italy Will Win]

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  1. modena_10

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    i'd rather cheer for portugal then have domenech as our coach. (H)
     
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    HA. that's all that deserves

    i would rather cheer for portugal then have domenech even be interviewed for the position. (H)
     
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    Agreed....well said!:33vff3o::33vff3o::33vff3o:
     
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    Funny stuff (H) It's "Orgullopendejo" btw ;) Try to understand man. He's got **** for brains. This thread should be closed.
     
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    That ref was horrid. Only 2 excuses were #1, he was paid, #2, hes just useless. Either way he should never ref again
     
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    why are you the only one who has said anything about the ref.

    imo, the ref called too many fouls not allowing a good flow to the game. he was spot on with simulation, for both sides. he did a good job of asserting himself early so there were no stupid tackles leading to bookings. overall i thought he did an adequate job. nothing really to complain about from either side.

    and to those penalty appeals, even john helm said "if it were outside the box it would have been a foul, but inside its just play on", or something to that nature. but i don't blame the ref if he "missed" one, spain were flopping in the box a couple times. and if there is something i've learned from watching our NT, is don't cry wolf too many times.

    and i thnk it was newbie who said "when did torres dive"? off the top of my head, he dove when someone backed into him and he flopped on the spot. not sure what player it was against though.
     
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    Everybody flops in modern football unfortunately. I mean think about it how many players outthere do you know that dont dive....exactly we have to count them in one hand because frankly almost no one is free of guilt...In the premiership diving is less pervassive cause ref's let the play go on, but they still do it. In Uruguay for example players admit that as part of their upbringing they are thought to dive and act out fouls...it is shameful, but that is the way the game is now. And if i had to name five NT that dive for a living then Italy, Argentina, Spain (yes Spain) Portugal and Uruguay have to come to mind.... the only way to stop it is if ref's stayed consistent and stop calling it as they do all the time
     
  8. Num Lock

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    lol i give you this trans-alpine "brother" italy's style works if it didn't you wouldn't have as many cups as you have, but don't EVER kid yourself into thinking your NT will play attacking football EVER, because you just don't know how to do that, you know how to defend, and SOME of you know how to counter but that's about it, attacking football is something you fail to do, YES you bore everybody and their mothers in a football match, when you say "beautiful displays of attacking football" all the world sees is counter attacking football after parking 11 behind the ball so don't ever think you play or have played at any moment in time attacking football, it's not in your blood. african midfield my balls, be happy that you lucked out during 06 finals because the coin can always land both ways and this time it landed Spain's way. During our last final we both played defensive ****ty football to our dismay, and to your pride, when Italy wins something you rub it on peoples faces while the rest of the world can finally rest from watching such boring displays of football so don't ever think otherwise and enjoy whatever you have achieved these last few years and let the Spaniards party on, because at least they produce football instead of defending and forcing PKs.
     
  9. OrgulloVikingo

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    The ref had a piss poor game. Any one thinking otherwise is blind. It was fact that it was a horridly called game. end of story
     
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    C'mon, that's not true. The ref did an OK-job. No big mistakes really. Perhaps he should've let the game flow better, not stopping the game so often, but no real mistakes. Only real mistake I saw from him, I guess, was booking Villa for diving, when he just lost his balance.

    And if you're so-*******-convinced that he was horrible, should never be a ref again, because of that match, then atleast back your opinions up somehow, giving examples of situations where he sucked.

    Opinions without arguments are as useless as Blatter.
     
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    Fabregas gets all the plaudits for his winning penalty?? ?Wtf?? shouldnt cassillas be classified as the hero??? the media is just dumb!
     
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    One penalty not called in Spains favor and a few right outside the box (like 3 of em). also he called fouls for the same type of situations he ignored at the other end. Very inconsistant. etc, etc. The ref was piss poor mate! Perhaps you should see the game again. And Im not the only one who thinks so, Im just the only one bringing it up. and actually, I saw the game twice. Once in Spanish and once in English and even the commentators were appauled by his job!
     
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    WTF? Is it really necessary to point out where their heritage lies, man? It's really prejudiced and derisive because you're insinuating that they'll never be seen as being authentically French as the Caucasian inhabitants of France no matter how long they've lived there or have been speaking the language....you make it sound like they were expediently naturalized minutes before the tourney started or something......sh!t ain't right....or maybe I'm getting a little too sensitive in my old age?.....hmm
     
  14. modena_10

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    your right yoss, i apologize. just a poke at the french. whether it was in the heat of the argument or whatever, i was wrong to say it.

    those are not examples. give situations with players in the game.

    bitter much?

    and yes, you hit the nail on the head. we have never played attacking football.....ever.:rofl:(Y)
     
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    no i'm not bitter after all in our last peak we took you out of the WC and then out of EURO 2000, i never liked our NT under Domenech, and yeah keep hiding your "bitterness" behind :D:rofl:, but it's the truth. Italy has never been known for playing attacking football, and after watching your "amazing" displays of "attacking" football throughout the years i've come to accept that you are good at your trade which is defending and counter attacking, hence the results. But it's really lame to try and make the spaniards not feel relieved and celebrate beating the world champions Italy on PK's something Italy had been pushing for since kick off. yeah attacking football cock and balls.

    Edit: african midfield, that was really rude. don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house (Camoranesi)
     
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    Mate, did you not see the game? The ref was facking terrible. Terrible! Im sure you heard this somewhere. Perhaps you should watch more football to understand. I don't know what to tell you. If you need me towalk you through the match then you are hopeless. Ref was a piece of ****e, end of story!
     
  17. Zakov

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    ref was dodgy but not as dodgy as most refs,
    e.g - in the Premiership......
    maybe in your point of view as a Spanish supporter but I don't think the refereeing was as bad as you say..........

    lets just move on to Russia shall we.....8|
     
  18. Sevillista

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    I think OrgulloVikingo isn't allowed to judge refereeing anymore. :) He once complained that the refs let Sevilla get away with too much in a match where Madrid broke one players' nose, another players cheekbone (out for four weeks), grabbed another player by the neck, and commited a penalty, all without discipline.
     
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    oh yeah you mean that match were Sevilla kicked Guti into an injury that last till just before the Clasico....yup i remember that game....:browsmiley:
     
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    was anyone else missing someone of Totti's calibre?
     
      

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