Real Madrid legend makes Chelsea, Liverpool Insult.

[pefan]

the sig is man utd team songs i wouldnt expect you to know that though. Dont get all abusive coming on here spitting ure dummy.

I really dont care no more you guys are boring me to death with this argument.

Okay i admit it has been promoted well. But it earns way more money than the other leagues.

 

[pefan]

Promoted as "The Greatest Show On Earth", the Premier League is the world's most popular and most watched sporting league, followed worldwide by over a billion people.[27] It is widely watched overseas, with matches being shown in 195 countries,[28] generally on networks owned and/or controlled by NewsCorp, which owns BSkyB and thus the primary UK and Ireland TV rights. NewsCorp has purchased ad space at some Premier League stadiums to promote Fox Soccer Channel, which is the company's US broadcaster (as in Britain, the rights are shared with Setanta Sport). Rogers Sportsnet in Canada carries several matches each Saturday. The Premier League is particularly popular in Asia, where it is the most widely distributed sports programme.[29] In the People's Republic of China, matches attract television audiences between 100 million and 360 million, more than any other foreign sport.[30] Due to this popularity, the league has held two pre-season tournaments in Asia, the only Premier League affiliated tournaments ever to have been held outside England. In July 2003 the FA Premier League Asia Cup was held in Malaysia, featuring three Premiership clubs, Chelsea, Newcastle United and Birmingham City, and the Malaysia national team.[31] In 2005 the Asia Trophy featured a similar format, held in Thailand and featuring the Thailand national team competing against three English clubs — Everton, Manchester City and Bolton Wanderers, the latter of whom won the trophy.[32] In 2007, the FA Premier League Asia Cup will move to Hong Kong and feature Liverpool, Portsmouth, Fulham and the Hong Kong FA Cup winning team. Radio coverage of the Premier League can also be heard in the United States on Sirius Satellite Radio.



source...wikipedia

 

[pefan]

Premier League
1 Man Utd 1,440,694 75,826
2 Arsenal 1,140,863 60,045
3 Newcastle 963,036 50,686
4 Liverpool 827,660 43,561
5 Chelsea 789,294 41,541
6 Man City 759,946 39,997
7 Everton 698,040 36,738
8 Aston Villa 688,071 36,214
9 Tottenham 679,043 35,739
10 West Ham 659,663 34,719
11 Sheff Utd 579,728 30,512
12 Middlesbrough 526,866 27,729
13 Charlton 497,708 26,195
14 Reading 452,758 23,829
15 Bolton 448,515 23,606
16 Fulham 423,310 22,279
17 Blackburn 404,233 21,275
18 Portsmouth 357,817 19,878
19 Watford 356,258 18,750
20 Wigan 345,019 18,158

Italian League
1 Milan 259,000 51,800
2 Inter Milan 204,251 40,850
3 Roma 243,197 40,532
4 Fiorentina 161,401 32,280
5 Palermo 141,177 28,235
6 Sampdoria 103,063 20,612
7 Torino 123,000 20,500
8 Chievo Verona 86,372 17,274
9 Messina 83,000 16,600
10 Udinese 81,500 16,300
11 Lazio 65,000 16,250
12 Cagliari 75,000 15,000
13 Atalanta 82,000 13,666
14 Parma 66,879 13,375
15 Reggina 66,000 13,200
16 Catania Calcio 40,000 10,000
17 Livorno 48,525 9,705
18 Ascoli 30,800 7,700
19 Siena 36,000 7,200
20 Empoli 35,000 7,000

Juss waitin for the Spanish League stats to come thru...

stats from ESPNsoccernet. So far Premiership attendances crap all over Serie A. ANd Italy has bigger stadia not necessarily safer though. Not all seater stadiums either. Hence can fit more fans than usual. Man Utd attendance surely the most in the world. 1 million plus in total. over the whole season. It surely rivals Barcas attendance over a season. These numbers on the right of the season total are averages per game. They are consistent numbers. And dont change much. Despite it being expensive people still go to games also because its safer to do so. And no stadium in the league lets fans have a standing section. All seater stadia.

 

[CarlosDanger]

This still doesn't mean the league is better than any other league

It just means more people watch it, which is due to it being one of the top leagues in the world, and also the best marketed league in the world.

You really are running around in circles and yet have never proved the league is better, because it is an unprovable point.

Give it a rest.

 

[pefan]

Deal with the facts. Attendances affect the state and health of the competition. It is an indicator. Also viewing numbers as well. If it was really bad no one would watch it. Its the most exciting league in the world end off. Case closed

 

[LDD]

Last year bundesliga has better attendance than premier league. From your source http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/attendance?league=ger.1&year=2005&cc=5739

BTW couldn't find how they do the maths on ESPNsoccernet, but those totals don't match with the averages. At least between the matches taken into account for different leagues

 

[CarlosDanger]

Well, judging from your very fanboyish remarks and your statements like "Deal with the facts" and "Case closed" it's obvious that your delusional little dream world is still very intact.

You simply don't understand that a subjective judgement can never be taken as fact, due to it's very nature. Then you produce numbers which are at best unreliable, and still don't prove your point. You can say the EPL is the "most watched" or "best attended" (although that little argument seems to have gone down the drain after LLD's post, hasn't it?), but neither of those "facts" even begin to indicate that it is the "best" league. The word best in and of itself has many interpretations.

Best at what? Do you mean it has the best players? And how would you judge that? Do we point out that the world player of the year for the past few years has been from other leagues? That would be your modus operandi. However, just because a league has the best player, doesn't make it the best league. Just because a league has the best attendance, or the most TV contracts, doesn't make it the best league. It makes it the best in those categories, which if you say the EPL is, fair enough. But the best league in terms of play or style is a subjective question which you have failed to prove utterly with your inane spouting of TV statistics and unfounded claims of worldwide viewership.

I see it is pointless to discuss this with you, as your grasp of such concepts as logic and facts are obviously quite some distance from reality.

 

[DionKool]

i m a chelsea fan but i totally agree. The guy said the truth, exactly what Georgiou said. Mourinho shows no interest in playing good football.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Anyway, pefan, here are the only statistics I need to prove my point in this thread right here:

http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144553

 

[pefan]

Talk about muppetry and sadness. I mean going through history to find some evidence to make me look like a hypocrite, But lets face it maybe theres a bit of accomplishment for the nerd behind their computer who digs up some cheesy posts i made when i was a big fan of Serie A before the matchfixing scandal. But its all good. Think what you like but i cant see anything other than a bunch of nerds with glasses digging through history to prove a point.

Whatever. Couldnt care less anymore.

 

[Ubik Valis]

i cant see anything other than a bunch of nerds with glasses digging through history to prove a point.

My, my...I haven't heard such prejudice since........the 3rd grade.

 

[Kibe Kru]

Think what you like but i cant see anything other than a bunch of nerds with glasses digging through history to prove a point.

Well, at least they try to prove a point unlike some other people.

 

[CarlosDanger]

The whole point of our discussion here was you making unfounded statements. Horatiu made a statement about you, then backed it up with facts.

Face facts m8, you sux, lol.

 

[pefan]

Just waiting for the mods to close this thread or some people wont give this crap a rest. Point made get over it, jeez

 

[CarlosDanger]

Funny how you wouldn't give it a rest earlier, and now you want the thread closed.

Interesting isn't it?

 

[pefan]

CarlosDanger deserves a cookie. How do we know you dont support another team besides toronto fc??? We have to take your word for it. SO what i used to watch ROma a lot big deal. I';ve always supported United way before. But then again you seem to know more about me.

Funny that,. Seeing as you talk from behind a pc.

 

[pefan]

Funny how you wouldn't give it a rest earlier, and now you want the thread closed.

Interesting isn't it?

Whas makin me laugh is the extreme lengths someone went to make a point. But its okay. I;ve seen worse case scenarios. Mr Canadian dude that watches european soccer and probably supports Barca or sommink. Gt over yourself.

 

[CarlosDanger]

I support Barcelona and have since I discovered what football was all about around 13 years ago. I have never hidden that fact and I post regularly in the Barcelona Thread.

There are other teams I like to watch, and will even cheer for in certain competitions because I like certain things about them (Newcastle, Liverpool, St. Etienne, Mallorca, Toluca, and several others). But I only ever use "we" with Barcelona, and now with TFC.

Once my hometown got a club, my allegiance moved there forever. They are number one for me, as it should be, and take precedence over all other clubs.

 

[pefan]

For someone whos a parent you seem to spend a lot of time on forums.

 

[CarlosDanger]

For someone whos a parent you seem to spend a lot of time on forums.

For someone who is too cool for all us "Internet nerds" you seem to spend a fair bit of time here yourself