PES6 pc Opinions

[The_Knight]

For those who have WE9KLE, how does pes6 compare to it?

 

[blackhawk8891]

PES6 is in my opinion horrible compared to 5.
The graphics have not changed.
Neither has their attempt in licensing, apart from LFP. I mean Chelsea is now called London FC...wtf is that?
Edit mode is still nice.
Pretty much, 6 is the same as 5 but with ONLY a BIT more gameplay tweaks and less licensing.
Its really hard for me to say this being a fan of PES, but this year, FIFA 07>PES6. But still, PES5>FIFA06. So it balances i guess. lol
Cheers!

 

[easyeasyeasy]

Neither has their attempt in licensing, apart from LFP. I mean Chelsea is now called London FC...wtf is that?!

Konami were only permitted to use two licenced FA Premiership teams, as EA have got the full Premiership licence for FIFA 07, so as they've now got Man Utd licenced, as well as Arsenal - Chelsea were the makeweights for the Man Utd licence.

 

[ibo]

..Its really hard for me to say this being a fan of PES, but this year, FIFA 07>PES6. But still, PES5>FIFA06. So it balances i guess. lol
Cheers!

aahh.. well.. i was waiting for that kind of comments..

 

[alex2003]

Ok -

WHERE DO I START!?!

What a terrible, terrible game. What an absolute insult to all of us with high-spec PCs that can handle just as good a graphics as the 360 version, yet we're still stuck with yester-years dodgy jagged edges, STUPIDLY blocky textures and absolutely appalling crowd effects.

Gameplay is good. Better than 5, but then this game is what 5 should have been, as it is NO different graphically at all!

And don't even get me started on THAT intro video - admittedly on all versions - but Christ! If you had never played a PES game before, would seeing this video fill you with confidence? No, didn't think so. And the music, well we won't go there...

I feel cheated. They so obviously just couldn't be arsed this year, and clearly waiting for the PS3 to come out, which is just pathetic.

Konami had better sort it out - they can't live off the gameplay forever.

 

[zerocool]

why do people give a dam about the graphics? as long as the animations are as good as the last game it doesn't make any significant difference to how you enjoy the game. unless your really superficial, lets face it most of you wont be playing the game the way seabass intended, same old tricks will be back - lurking outside the penalty box finding samey goals so you can make the game look like fifa, trying to win anyway you can

 

[alex2003]

So, you're quite prepared to have the same graphics for the next 10 years then, because Konami clearly aren't bothered about PC gamers. In fact, it's got to the stage where I am MORE bothered about graphics than gameplay. Technology and times have moved on and we deserve better. Not some graphics based on a technology which is now getting on for 8 years old.

 

[charlie74]

why do people give a dam about the graphics? as long as the animations are as good as the last game it doesn't make any significant difference to how you enjoy the game. unless your really superficial, lets face it most of you wont be playing the game the way seabass intended, same old tricks will be back - lurking outside the penalty box finding samey goals so you can make the game look like fifa, trying to win anyway you can

Graphics are important to make u feel u are living a real experience, just like sound is crucial. Wanna tell me u care just for gameplay? Then fine, try to go to an empty stadium to watch the game and tell me if u like it. Then watch the same game in a very old tv with bad blurred video and tell me if u like it.

Or go out and **** a beatiful woman and then an ugly woman, same gameplay...........but different graphics........

 

[edin80]

Graphics are important to make u feel u are living a real experience, just like sound is crucial. Wanna tell me u care just for gameplay? Then fine, try to go to an empty stadium to watch the game and tell me if u like it. Then watch the same game in a very old tv with bad blurred video and tell me if u like it.

Or go out and **** a beatiful woman and then an ugly woman, same gameplay...........but different graphics........

:funny:

 

[rifai]

Wow its not easy to please everybody..there few minority out there who says its terrible game....define 'terrible' please?

 

[niceman]

Or go out and **** a beatiful woman and then an ugly woman, same gameplay...........but different graphics........

U watch too much porn...go outside ur room and pick up real chicks

 

[MagicaRoma]

Or go out and **** a beatiful woman and then an ugly woman, same gameplay...........but different graphics........

:funny: :funny: :funny:

 

[Sleepwalker]

The heart of PES is still at the PS2, the platform for which it was developed in the first place. The PC game is just a port of the PS2's, hence the 'old' style graphics. But it's all relative, really. People only think PES6's graphics are bad, because they can be better with today's technolegy. Compared with what we played way back in time, PES6 is astounding, graphically. Of course I could wish for more, and I'm sure we will be flabbarghasted in the future, but for now I am perfectly happy with the many deep gameplay-tweaks Konami has implemented.

And the graphic of ladies? Well, I absolutely doubt if all - nice 'graphics' or not - are capable of the same great gameplay...

 

[Nack]

Well I finally got my copy today, went home at lunch and played for about 30 mins.


From some of the negative posts scattered about I was fearing the worst!

Well what a suprise, I had no slowdown or any other gripes in the set-up.

And WOW! This plays so much better than pes5, the balance and positions your players get in are great.

I was playing as Newcastle vs Man U, they had scored about 20 mins in, but lots of chances either end!

Then nobby solano breaking down the right, played a great splitting throughball to the edge of the box, and BAM, Duff rockets one top corner off the underside of the bar!

I love this game already, plus the quick free-kicks.

It's a shame most people are having problems, as for those who don't it's a big step up.

Just what I was wanting!

Cheers

Nack

 

[Nuno]

I can't wait for my copy to arrive. If everything works out, I'll be playing it tonight.

 

[Aarfy Aardvark]

I really don't know what people are moaning about to be honest, the several scatter-brain rants are from people without the intellect to actually articulate any sense on the issue for those involved. Please save the server space and type something meaningful for christ sake.

Anyhoo. Yes, they are less teams (lol @ China) and licenses - and to be honest if this does radically effect you - then simply don't buy it. I've never once understood this argument, because this rhetoric comes from idiots who play Barcelona/Milan/Manchester United to death.

If you like a smooth playing, very engrossing and technical minded football game, then buy this. Graphically its a slight step up, but nothing that radical from previous versions. Animations are lot more sweeter, and the player animations as well the close control really adds to the feeling of the game whilst trying to sweep all those annoying miscontrols in PES5 under the rug.

What I do like about this game, is that it has plugged some of the annoying holes in the previous version - by getting rid of niggling fouls and employing a far more accurate shooting system. In the past it was far to easy and annoyingly ridiculous that a player could launch a thunderbolt from 30 yards when he was being closed down or was hitting on the angle on his weaker foot. When thing I've found is that, you really have to make the space for yourself, and its not as easy as shooting on sight with a superior player. The likelihood is those daft Adriano power-blasters are a thing of the past. You really have to understand your team, and the pick the right pass and the right shot at the right time.

Goalie animations are a lot, lot lot better. Plus the nicest thing about them is that they actual hold onto the friggin ball this time. There was chances in the previous version, whereby keepers would parry a fairly weak shot at the centre of their body. Another thing worth noting is that when you play on rainy conditons, the keeper can at times have the ball slip out of his hands. Which I thought was awesome. I also liked how Lehmann sort of fell into the net when I bent a Ronaldinho fk into the top corner. Keepers also now tip shots one handed around the post.

Heading is now a lot more harder as you really have to time it. It was so easy to either hold down the shoto button or bash it randomnly. Now you have to time it, so the player reaches the jump when the ball is in the air. In short, its a lot harder to get a good header on goal.

The long-balls are far better implemented for their range and scope. I think in the older version - it was very difficult to direct the long-ball. I also like the new long through ball passes. Before they were sort of chipped through, whereas now they are sort of cleverly driven over the top, which really adds to the direction of the play.

Tactics. Improved for the noob. Now includes an auto function that will pick your best team and formation/tactics to go with it. This is handy if you don't like setting things up and just want to play.

I also like the automatic selection team, where the computer picks a random team based on certain continents or via 3 seperate teams. That's a fun mode to play, and quite a challenging one to sort of play a certain way with players you're not used to.

Negatives?

* Of course if you like the Bundesliga, you are gonna have to wait for a patch to fill in those blank teams. Shame really, but if Fifa continue their oligarchy more fans will end up supporting that god-awful franchise for longer. Especially if it breeds more petulant fans.

* Far too easy for pros. I've not really found it a challenge yet on the highest level. The CPU, although very well implemented still doesn't really give a great test of your playing ability. But tbh, I think I need to break this a bit more - this is my impression after about 10 games.

* Tactical system is too laboured and at times confusing. They have removed such things as closing down, pressing etc. And now its a manual configuration. I also don't like the layout, its too confusing. The lock-on on the set-piece stats is a nice touch, as it helps you see who your best kick-taker is without having to trawl through the stats. Also shows if you have any PK specialists as well.

* Not really that much in terms of a leap, both in gameplay and in graphics. The graphics have been touched up somewhat, whilst the gameplay is merely and advanced and remastered one of PES5.

Whilst it would be so easy to jump on the Konami bashing bandwagon without even giving as so much thought to the game - I'm not really going to do that. Yes, its not a huge step-up and yes its not a massive improvement over the former - but on its own merits this is far and away still the best goddamn football game on the planet.

If you are a PES-aholic and want to make the step-up to a game that really tries and alleviates some of the annoyances of the previous version, then by all means this game is for you. However, if you feel as if £30 is a bit steep for what they are offering and you perhaps didn't mind what was in PES5, then its best to stick with the former.

I personally think this is far more technical in its approach and is now implementing gameplay that rewards player skill and awareness over the actual level of players you are commanding. Which in itself is a good thing for the longevitiy of the series.

I would hate this series to become a massive sell-out and start pandering itself to the lowest common-denominator. I personally don't care about licenses or about graphics, so long as you can play a good football simulation.

And as a long-suffering football fan who doesn't support a globally based money making oufit - the question of whether you really care about the actual principles over the vain immaterial goods should be a blindingly obvious one to anyone who can truly appreciate both the sport and the gaming off-shoots it creates.

 

[lazoli]

Great, Great review. Thanks

 

[The_Knight]

...and I didn't think there could be an angrier response than the anti-PES5 response we had last year.

Anyway, so far I'm very satisfied with WE9K:LE, so I'd like to how PES6 compares to it...

 

[JanerAli]

I really don't know what people are moaning about to be honest, the several scatter-brain rants are from people without the intellect to actually articulate any sense on the issue for those involved. Please save the server space and type something meaningful for christ sake.

Anyhoo. Yes, they are less teams (lol @ China) and licenses - and to be honest if this does radically effect you - then simply don't buy it. I've never once understood this argument, because this rhetoric comes from idiots who play Barcelona/Milan/Manchester United to death.

If you like a smooth playing, very engrossing and technical minded football game, then buy this. Graphically its a slight step up, but nothing that radical from previous versions. Animations are lot more sweeter, and the player animations as well the close control really adds to the feeling of the game whilst trying to sweep all those annoying miscontrols in PES5 under the rug.

What I do like about this game, is that it has plugged some of the annoying holes in the previous version - by getting rid of niggling fouls and employing a far more accurate shooting system. In the past it was far to easy and annoyingly ridiculous that a player could launch a thunderbolt from 30 yards when he was being closed down or was hitting on the angle on his weaker foot. When thing I've found is that, you really have to make the space for yourself, and its not as easy as shooting on sight with a superior player. The likelihood is those daft Adriano power-blasters are a thing of the past. You really have to understand your team, and the pick the right pass and the right shot at the right time.

Goalie animations are a lot, lot lot better. Plus the nicest thing about them is that they actual hold onto the friggin ball this time. There was chances in the previous version, whereby keepers would parry a fairly weak shot at the centre of their body. Another thing worth noting is that when you play on rainy conditons, the keeper can at times have the ball slip out of his hands. Which I thought was awesome. I also liked how Lehmann sort of fell into the net when I bent a Ronaldinho fk into the top corner. Keepers also now tip shots one handed around the post.

Heading is now a lot more harder as you really have to time it. It was so easy to either hold down the shoto button or bash it randomnly. Now you have to time it, so the player reaches the jump when the ball is in the air. In short, its a lot harder to get a good header on goal.

The long-balls are far better implemented for their range and scope. I think in the older version - it was very difficult to direct the long-ball. I also like the new long through ball passes. Before they were sort of chipped through, whereas now they are sort of cleverly driven over the top, which really adds to the direction of the play.

Tactics. Improved for the noob. Now includes an auto function that will pick your best team and formation/tactics to go with it. This is handy if you don't like setting things up and just want to play.

I also like the automatic selection team, where the computer picks a random team based on certain continents or via 3 seperate teams. That's a fun mode to play, and quite a challenging one to sort of play a certain way with players you're not used to.

Negatives?

* Of course if you like the Bundesliga, you are gonna have to wait for a patch to fill in those blank teams. Shame really, but if Fifa continue their oligarchy more fans will end up supporting that god-awful franchise for longer. Especially if it breeds more petulant fans.

* Far too easy for pros. I've not really found it a challenge yet on the highest level. The CPU, although very well implemented still doesn't really give a great test of your playing ability. But tbh, I think I need to break this a bit more - this is my impression after about 10 games.

* Tactical system is too laboured and at times confusing. They have removed such things as closing down, pressing etc. And now its a manual configuration. I also don't like the layout, its too confusing. The lock-on on the set-piece stats is a nice touch, as it helps you see who your best kick-taker is without having to trawl through the stats. Also shows if you have any PK specialists as well.

* Not really that much in terms of a leap, both in gameplay and in graphics. The graphics have been touched up somewhat, whilst the gameplay is merely and advanced and remastered one of PES5.

Whilst it would be so easy to jump on the Konami bashing bandwagon without even giving as so much thought to the game - I'm not really going to do that. Yes, its not a huge step-up and yes its not a massive improvement over the former - but on its own merits this is far and away still the best goddamn football game on the planet.

If you are a PES-aholic and want to make the step-up to a game that really tries and alleviates some of the annoyances of the previous version, then by all means this game is for you. However, if you feel as if £30 is a bit steep for what they are offering and you perhaps didn't mind what was in PES5, then its best to stick with the former.

I personally think this is far more technical in its approach and is now implementing gameplay that rewards player skill and awareness over the actual level of players you are commanding. Which in itself is a good thing for the longevitiy of the series.

I would hate this series to become a massive sell-out and start pandering itself to the lowest common-denominator. I personally don't care about licenses or about graphics, so long as you can play a good football simulation.

And as a long-suffering football fan who doesn't support a globally based money making oufit - the question of whether you really care about the actual principles over the vain immaterial goods should be a blindingly obvious one to anyone who can truly appreciate both the sport and the gaming off-shoots it creates.

I would share many of ur views in this review.
I would also add
Still pissed off that it's a console port and it's still has a very "Japanese" feeling etc
Menus/presentation are shyte still
Gallas has wrong number :fool:
Online mode is ****ed
Still issues with AA and a ripple thru the game and I use Radlink and all
Overall way not enough improvements/change since pes5 last year

 

[Lazza]

as with all the other pro evo's my first impressions were mixed like most of yours, but it always grows on me. I think its just a case of stick with it and be your doubts will disapear