You're a fool culo - you simply don't know what you are talkiing about. Maybe you're playing a different game, but PES3 is not scripted. And you have yet to give a single example of what the hell you are on about by all this scripting!!
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PES3 = cpu v cpu scripts
- Thread starter culo
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don't call the man a fool dude, that's not ok. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, and Culo did give his examples. I agree that certain parts are indeed scrpited (some runs, some through balls, some throw ins etc.) but I insist that this isn't a problem at all. In fact it is realistic and adds great depth to the game, players in real life will make the wrong run and give the wrong pass, it happens hundreds of times in every game of football. there are glitches, but they happen once in 10 games, which is hardly a worry....
I know precisely what I'm talking about. It would appear that you don't know what I'm talking about and you should be grateful for that. I wish that I could not notice it when the CPU decides to make my guy change direction or stop running, etc when I'm supposed to be controlling him. Playing whilst stoned or drunk certainly helps but whilst sober, it's very obvious and very annoying.
Well I've just read through this whole thread a 2nd time, taking especial note on culo's posts. Culo I fail to see any examples given that show where these 'scripts' take control of your player. You've simply said "...CPU decides to make my guy change direction or stop running, etc when I'm supposed to be controlling him." Now if you've read my previous post on this thread you know how to prevent both of these happening. The only time the computer takes control of your player is to make them run towards the ball, or at least towards where the ball is going for a through pass. Without the computer taking control in these situations the game would be crap tbh. Just try it yourself, after every pass, long ball or through ball press r1+r2 and try to get to the ball yourself.
And dont talk about which level any1 is playing on, lvl1 and lvl5 make no difference to your own players or how the computer controls them.
Gobz
And dont talk about which level any1 is playing on, lvl1 and lvl5 make no difference to your own players or how the computer controls them.
Gobz
Nah, you've not got it gobby, i know all about super-cancel and that is not what i'm talking about. I spoken with plenty of guys on other forums know exactly what I'm referring to.
One thing I will say is that you must have noticed that the CPU players, if losing, will find remarkable speed, reaction, acceleration, etc during the closing stages of the match (you haven't noticed this??). It is at times like this when it becomes much more obvious that the CPU is subtley but critically affecting the control of your guy. But I'm not going to go in to great detail in the explanations as it takes to long to type it out.
One thing I will say is that you must have noticed that the CPU players, if losing, will find remarkable speed, reaction, acceleration, etc during the closing stages of the match (you haven't noticed this??). It is at times like this when it becomes much more obvious that the CPU is subtley but critically affecting the control of your guy. But I'm not going to go in to great detail in the explanations as it takes to long to type it out.
simakperrce
Reserve Team
then why post? because of the "fanboy" rewards?
simakperrce
Reserve Team
know exactly what you mean. don't know how many injury time goals i have received. mostly when i am up by 1. granted, we all remember barcelona 99, but that was special, because it was unique. here...
it's these meta scripts which make me angry rather than the player based ones. am i the only one who is a times surprised (and annoyed) of these phases in which all rebounds magically bounce back to the CPU, all passes are magically blocked, all one on ones get lost, the simplest (x) passes with the exact LAR stick direction go uncontrolleably somewhere or stop short only so the CPU can pick up the ball? i have nothing against being beaten by the CPU as long as *I* commit the mistake. but when Vorlander clears a CPU corner kick to the penalty spot, even though my LAR told him to head it to the outside of the box, and when then a CPU forward slots it home with a side volley -- all of that in injury time -- well, even with Barcelona in mind, this is just too much, especially when it happens every 4th game.
i am surprised that even long time players of the franchise so ardently deny the existence of these scripted situations. as if pointing them out meant bashing the game...
If this IS the case, then it's a pretty remarkable bit of coding realism on the part of Konami. I don't know any team or player in the world who in the dying minutes of a game they were losing, would not put in every last bit of effort to try and salvage something from the game. What do you expect? They just sit back and take it??
PES is not by any possible interpretation "one big shi**y script" as you earlier called it. Sorry mate, but you really don't know what you are talking about if you truly believe this.
Scripting is essential to any game - the trick is to make it almost invisible. PES does a damn fine job of this, and is the most free flowing script-invisble game i've ever seen. You are nit-picking and making mountains out of mole hills, and are either some kind of super-coder-sixthsense-uber-genius who can see things 99.9% of the rest of us can't, or are just trying to wind us all up.
The problem with it happening in PES/WE (and it DOES happen), is that the CPU players don't get tired at all, even if it's at the end of a game. They just find this superhuman strength from nowhere, and all player stats seem to go out of the window. If you happen to have the ball, your team's passes go astray more often, and your players' first touch isn't as tight either.
What makes it even worse is that you can always pin it down to the last 20 or so minutes of a game - it's as if the CPU switches cheating on and off at will. If you play a friendly on 3 stars or above with your team on red (up) arrows, and the CPU team on grey (down) arrows, and you're winning when it comes to the last 20 minutes, you'll see what I mean. Believe you me, the CPU team won't be playing like it's on low energy.
I can't believe people (regular players, I'm assuming) haven't noticed these scripts, I find them immensely frustrating. The PES/WE series is a damn fine game, but it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, and there's always room for improvement.
TinnionA97
Club Supporter
Go and play ISS '98. Then tell me a game needs scripting. I'm serious, go on.
The fact is, scripting is simply a result of lazy AI coding. The fact that it happens in both FIFA and PES3 is no excuse for it.
The fact is, scripting is simply a result of lazy AI coding. The fact that it happens in both FIFA and PES3 is no excuse for it.
That means you losing often against CPU?
My problem with PES is that the AI is too weak for me. I`m not saying i win every match. I can win with my favourite team 9 from 10.(with a weak team 5 to 10 )
I see the scripts when the CPU is doing same mistakes in offense.
They are not noticing a player running forward free. Or if they are completely free without a defender, CPU runs not straight to the goal.
And very often they try to shoot from distance(easily blocked) or shooting from not possibly positions.
I play the ISS series from beginning and this problems in offense are not fixed. But i noticed in PES 3 defensive players positons very tight the box, and it is harder to shoot from distance.(in PES 2 it was too easy to score from distance). Or you can manualy control the GK.(L1+triangle)
I`m saying ISS adds every time very useful improvements unlike FIFA.
But the real fun is playing against a strong human opponent and that is most important. And it doesn`t matter if it is FIFA or other soccer games. I also enjoyd FIFA with my friends. Although I`m not a FIFA pro i could at least score 5 or 8.