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UpTheIrons

Club Supporter
Originally posted by POLI
UpTheIron

can you please help me with my tactics. i have two that i use for league, home/away

i keep on losing matchez even tho i control the game.


Defence

Move #2 and #6 into your penalty area. Directly above the corner of the 6 yard line, so they should be positioned like this:

Code:
 ___2____6___
|      .     | 
|     ___    |
|    |   |   |

Then have #4 and either #20 or #24 directly above those two. The most defefensive solid player, I'll use #20 for an example:

Code:
    4    20

 ___2____6___
|      .     | 
|     ___    |
|    |   |   |

A 'magic square' in the defence can break attacks down easy. With a majority of users not opting to use the wings, there is no need to have players out wide, so what we do is we use two centre-halves, and two anchormen to protect the defence.



Midfield
Okay, keep #9 and #7 where they are. Move #24 into the bottom half of the centre circle.

Code:
-----------------------
     _______  
 9  /       \  7
___/_________\_______
   \        /
    \__24__/ 
------------------------

Here you will have the midfield playing in an inverted triangle, so it's key you have a forward and two strikers leading your attack.

Stikers:

Code:
_____________________
    |   |____|  |
    |      .    |
    |___________|
     '.11___10.'  
             
         ?

The '?' would be one of your players who is encompassed in attributes such as passing, ball control, play intelligence and shooting. He will link-up with the midfield.

Your #11 and #10 are your two standard strikers, it could be worth moving them out to the edge of the box if you wish to add width to your attack.


Strategy
Formation: 4-3-3
Tactic: Long balls
Style: Normal mentality
Aggression: Aggressive

You should end up with something like this:

Code:
_____________
  |   |____|  |
  |      .    |
  |___________|
   '.11___10.'  
            
        ?
----------------------------
      _______  
  9  /       \  7
____/_________\___
    \        /
     \__24__/ 
-----------------------------
      4    20

   ___2____6___
  |      .     | 
  |     ___    |
__|    |   |   |__
 

rony31

Team Captain
I used that tactic, POLI (except with 3 forwards) and it worked pretty well... today I tried doing what UTI said, and I lost 4-0 at home, outchanced 16-1 :| sooo ya, I'm sticking with the original :$
 

UltrasViola

Reserve Team
Originally posted by rony31
I used that tactic, POLI (except with 3 forwards) and it worked pretty well... today I tried doing what UTI said, and I lost 4-0 at home, outchanced 16-1 :| sooo ya, I'm sticking with the original :$

yeha i used the one that UT told me. and lost 4-1 :kader: maybe il play some more games so players get used to the new tactic :rolleyes:
 

Hawkmoon

Club Supporter
Hi there UpTheIron!

I have no clue who you are but you sure seem to like tactics like I do. I therefore have a question to you where you can get even more information than you can get from most users. I have a website where I have put all my player stats on and together with two pics of two formations, one old formation, and one new formation, I'd like you to comment what you think about them.



The first one is the one I have used until now and the last one is the one I will test. Why I make that little change in my tactic is just because my number 10, that will say Jonatan "The Flash" Lindgren, isn't performing as good as he can and the wrong players get the chances to score. I have only played one game with the new tactic and The Flash scored a lot in that game, so it looks promising.

Do you think you can guess what style of playing I use and so? And what style would you use? Well, I'm looking forward to an answer. Kinda like tactic discussions. =)

Uhm.. This is the first time where I try to post with pictures in and stuff so it might turn out wrong. We'll see... =) Oh, and my web site with all players on has the url: http://medlem.spray.se/hawkmoon/
 

UltrasViola

Reserve Team
hmm i dont think that tactic is good for me. i so far lost everygame and not just close games. lost tem 5-0 6-0 and so on. hmmm
 

Hawkmoon

Club Supporter
POLI>>My team seem to handle the tactic quite well. I have good players though... I think good midfielders are really important with that tactic. Good tacklers and good ball distributers are really important on the midfield with the tactic. The defensive midfielders to the right and the left is the ones who should take care of the attacking wingers so they need good tackling skills, thats for sure.
 

UpTheIrons

Club Supporter
Originally posted by rony31
I used that tactic, POLI (except with 3 forwards) and it worked pretty well... today I tried doing what UTI said, and I lost 4-0 at home, outchanced 16-1 :| sooo ya, I'm sticking with the original :$

I very much doubt moving one striker back into a forward position has a negative effect on your defence seeing as the strikers are for attacking and play a minimal role when not in posession of the ball.


Originally posted by POLI
yeha i used the one that UT told me. and lost 4-1 :kader: maybe il play some more games so players get used to the new tactic :rolleyes:

hmm i dont think that tactic is good for me. i so far lost everygame and not just close games. lost tem 5-0 6-0 and so on. hmmm

Your tactic should look like this:




If it does look like the above image, then please scrap it as it is doing your team no favours as your players are obviously not suited to the tactic.

My knowledge of creating success for others is limited. I could sit here all day creating tactics, however without the knowledge of knowing the calibre of players I would be working with, then it is impossible to get the most out of them and use their skills to the best of my advantage.

If you have a team with attributes which are good in cross balls, then use long ball. If a lot of your team have high tackling attributes, then there is no need for an aggressive approach and unnecessary yellow and red cards.


Originally posted by Hawkmoon
Hi there UpTheIron!

I have no clue who you are but you sure seem to like tactics like I do. I therefore have a question to you where you can get even more information than you can get from most users. I have a website where I have put all my player stats on and together with two pics of two formations, one old formation, and one new formation, I'd like you to comment what you think about them.



The first one is the one I have used until now and the last one is the one I will test. Why I make that little change in my tactic is just because my number 10, that will say Jonatan "The Flash" Lindgren, isn't performing as good as he can and the wrong players get the chances to score. I have only played one game with the new tactic and The Flash scored a lot in that game, so it looks promising.

Do you think you can guess what style of playing I use and so? And what style would you use? Well, I'm looking forward to an answer. Kinda like tactic discussions. =)

Uhm.. This is the first time where I try to post with pictures in and stuff so it might turn out wrong. We'll see... =) Oh, and my web site with all players on has the url: http://medlem.spray.se/hawkmoon/


Hello, Hawkmoon. I'm an English GA, and yes, I, alike you, also am fond for discussing tactics.

Both of your tactics are very different. I'll start with your old one, on the left.

Old tactic:
A flat back three, it's very popular, and bizarrely effective which is understandable due to the lack of width. It's always a good idea.

I would wager your wingbacks, #5, and #6 are key players. Not only would they cut out attacks down the wing, they would also create quite a lot of chances.

#8, and #9, the inside-midielders, they would be used for defending also, however they would link up with the wingbacks, while also using #7 as a link-up player, and creating the chances. I would expect these two players to be playing an imperative role within your team.

#7 as I have already mentioned is tricky. He would be picked up by a lot of players, and if on a counter-attack, he would be extremely hard to pick-up.

#10 and #11 are specifcally not as close as they can get to one another. Instead, they're quite wide, and this enables the wingbacks to be introduced into the game a whole lot more which means the team will be working as a unit


New tactic:
Flat back three as I have already stated, extremely effective.

The wingbacks and midfielders have a lot more support here as #7 and #11 drop off and play as a link-up unit. They are purposely wide to intorduce the wingbacks into the game a lot more.

Your lone-striker, #10 is going to have to be of an exceptional quality to play alone. If he is encompassed in the attributed such as; play intelligence; speed; stamina; ball control; shooting; heading; then yes, this tactic could be extremely effective.

I would also recommend that you play attacking football due to your crowded midfield will give the opposition very little room, and by bombarding the opposition with an influx of attacks, then you will eventually get on the mark.



As you have said, if 'the flash' scored a reasonable amount of goals with the new tactic, then use that. If you're scoring adequate amounts of goals, then you should have no fault because you have 8 players defending.

With your new tactic I would wager you are playing:
Mentality: Attacking
Style: Short passing / Wing play.
Aggression: Normal

A very nice website too with easy navigation, and as I can see, 'the flash' is a player which is indispensible to not only Hawkmoon, but to your latest tactic.
 

rony31

Team Captain
Originally posted by UpTheIrons
I very much doubt moving one striker back into a forward position has a negative effect on your defence seeing as the strikers are for attacking and play a minimal role when not in posession of the ball.

zwuh? what I meant by 3 forwards was that POLI only had 2 forwards in that picture he posted... joke, see :|
 

Bluecoaster

Reserve Team
Originally posted by UpTheIrons
If he is encompassed in the attributed such as; play intelligence; speed; stamina; ball control; shooting; heading; then yes, this tactic could be extremely effective.


Let's see...Play Int. 8
Speed 10
Stamina 6
Ball C. 8
Shooting 10
Heading 5

Yep...he definitelly sucks :)


Blue
 

Pontefract City

Senior Squad
Hawkmoon is a legend, I remember watching the Offside Media Cup final, what a brilliant match! End of season 7 if I remember rightly...ah the good - slightly - old days of Mz! :D
 


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