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Manchester United Thread [2005/2006]
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15M £
It would only have been a 15 Million £ loss if we'd have gone to win the cl - that's a fact. still anyone thinking we could play on the same level as european top teams atm has 300% united glasses... (an Inform Barca, Juve etc... IMO just to good for ManUtd atm)
Poor European Form
United has been very very poor in European games since a while.
After those Clashes with Madrid I remember only 1 very good game and that was the Rooney Debut. Ruud scored the 4 in another match but not against a big gun. (I've had to see it go downhill against milan @ old trafford last year)
Generally United looked poor - why is difficult to say but probably because a combination what still is going on at the club already started a while ago
tactics, players etc
Utd is capable of matching a big gun for 1 game but not the long run, simply because they lack DESIRE (exluded Heinze, Neville, Rooney and Smith) the rest more or less doesn't care. Some are more talented some less but the once feared Utd-spirit is lost IMO
Not everything is Doom and Gloom IMO, yes we are out of Europe so what – we didn’t deserve to advance playing so poorly.
On a side note they will have no far away travels, just the League, FA and Carling Cup to play for – which is fantastic – since usually since 1999 Fergie was so obsessed with the ugly big eared European trophy. It will give the players some rest (for the World Cup) aswell as less a chance to get injuried.
Ferguson and his style & ability
Ferguson seems to have lost it more and more with every year that passes - it would do the club good to have a new manager, move on.
The Players have a new face to see in training, to impress him in order to get games, have a new someone who challes you, a new face to see. Aswell for the Staff and Media (which at the moment is unbelievable). You don’t have to be a Jose to make them eat of your hands all the time, but a little less stubbornness would do good.
from the transfer policy there's a mixed feeling
Van Der Sar and Park (which at the beginning I thought of a asian-market shirt seller who proved me wrong big time) were QUALITY Transfers for little money. Sadly it wasn't tried to get Van Der Sar earlier (after Juve sold him off)
Otherwise and bare with me for saying these things since 1999
Top Buys: Nistelrooy, Rooney, Heinze, Van Der Sar, Ferdinand (till last season)
Mixed: Ronaldo, Park, Smith
Poor Buys: Where to start…Veron, Blanc, Bellion, Djemba, Kleberson, Saha, the 500 goalies, Forlan and plenty of others
The “Stubborness”Sales of Stam and Becks
From the Current Squad and I don’t include promising youngsters like Rossi, Pique
IMO the following are good enough to play on
Good Players
Van Der Sar
Neville
Ferdinand (if he descovers his form)
Heinze
Park
Ronaldo (if he puts the team 1st)
Smith (if he can improve his form, not his commitment)
Rooney
Rossi
Icons
Solskjaer – as much as I like him – he won’t be the old Ole we all know and love.
Scholes – if he gets on his annually 5 games good run and scoring goals and the goes for the missing for the rest of the season, same can be said as for Giggs
Giggs – 1 good game 10 bad ones – his star faded
Nistelrooy – scored some goals to put gloss on the cracks, credit for that, still since the Becks delivery is gone he’s fading too.
Average and poor players
Silly Silvestre
Brown
O’Shea
Fletcher
Saha
Richardson
some players I’d like to see at United which are realistic:
Van Buyten (Hamburg)
De Jong (Ajax)
Jones (on loan to Preston)
Pedersen (Blackburn)
+ a class DM/CM which is NOT Ballack
Ferguson is ironicly like wine (of which he likes to share a glass of with most managers) usually the older they get the better, but once they reach a certain limit and then turn sour
On a Site Note - GARY NEVILLE IS MANUTD CAPTAIN
It would only have been a 15 Million £ loss if we'd have gone to win the cl - that's a fact. still anyone thinking we could play on the same level as european top teams atm has 300% united glasses... (an Inform Barca, Juve etc... IMO just to good for ManUtd atm)
Poor European Form
United has been very very poor in European games since a while.
After those Clashes with Madrid I remember only 1 very good game and that was the Rooney Debut. Ruud scored the 4 in another match but not against a big gun. (I've had to see it go downhill against milan @ old trafford last year)
Generally United looked poor - why is difficult to say but probably because a combination what still is going on at the club already started a while ago
tactics, players etc
Utd is capable of matching a big gun for 1 game but not the long run, simply because they lack DESIRE (exluded Heinze, Neville, Rooney and Smith) the rest more or less doesn't care. Some are more talented some less but the once feared Utd-spirit is lost IMO
Not everything is Doom and Gloom IMO, yes we are out of Europe so what – we didn’t deserve to advance playing so poorly.
On a side note they will have no far away travels, just the League, FA and Carling Cup to play for – which is fantastic – since usually since 1999 Fergie was so obsessed with the ugly big eared European trophy. It will give the players some rest (for the World Cup) aswell as less a chance to get injuried.
Ferguson and his style & ability
Ferguson seems to have lost it more and more with every year that passes - it would do the club good to have a new manager, move on.
The Players have a new face to see in training, to impress him in order to get games, have a new someone who challes you, a new face to see. Aswell for the Staff and Media (which at the moment is unbelievable). You don’t have to be a Jose to make them eat of your hands all the time, but a little less stubbornness would do good.
from the transfer policy there's a mixed feeling
Van Der Sar and Park (which at the beginning I thought of a asian-market shirt seller who proved me wrong big time) were QUALITY Transfers for little money. Sadly it wasn't tried to get Van Der Sar earlier (after Juve sold him off)
Otherwise and bare with me for saying these things since 1999
Top Buys: Nistelrooy, Rooney, Heinze, Van Der Sar, Ferdinand (till last season)
Mixed: Ronaldo, Park, Smith
Poor Buys: Where to start…Veron, Blanc, Bellion, Djemba, Kleberson, Saha, the 500 goalies, Forlan and plenty of others
The “Stubborness”Sales of Stam and Becks
From the Current Squad and I don’t include promising youngsters like Rossi, Pique
IMO the following are good enough to play on
Good Players
Van Der Sar
Neville
Ferdinand (if he descovers his form)
Heinze
Park
Ronaldo (if he puts the team 1st)
Smith (if he can improve his form, not his commitment)
Rooney
Rossi
Icons
Solskjaer – as much as I like him – he won’t be the old Ole we all know and love.
Scholes – if he gets on his annually 5 games good run and scoring goals and the goes for the missing for the rest of the season, same can be said as for Giggs
Giggs – 1 good game 10 bad ones – his star faded
Nistelrooy – scored some goals to put gloss on the cracks, credit for that, still since the Becks delivery is gone he’s fading too.
Average and poor players
Silly Silvestre
Brown
O’Shea
Fletcher
Saha
Richardson
some players I’d like to see at United which are realistic:
Van Buyten (Hamburg)
De Jong (Ajax)
Jones (on loan to Preston)
Pedersen (Blackburn)
+ a class DM/CM which is NOT Ballack
Ferguson is ironicly like wine (of which he likes to share a glass of with most managers) usually the older they get the better, but once they reach a certain limit and then turn sour
On a Site Note - GARY NEVILLE IS MANUTD CAPTAIN
Pogba4Now
Team Captain
We are getting worst every year in the CL since 1999. In 2003 and 2004 we couldn't reach the quarter finals and this year its gone worst. There's surely a problem somewhere in the management. I wonder what will happen next year if we keep deteriorating like this in europe.
What a shame it is to finish last in the group, that too in such a mediocre group. Only 3 goals out of 6 games is totally unacceptable even for FC Thun. Why don't Man U realise that its time for fergie to leave? He's done enough for the team and we, man u fans should respect him and be thankful to him for that. But now he's just ******* up the whole team even with the experience he has.
What a shame it is to finish last in the group, that too in such a mediocre group. Only 3 goals out of 6 games is totally unacceptable even for FC Thun. Why don't Man U realise that its time for fergie to leave? He's done enough for the team and we, man u fans should respect him and be thankful to him for that. But now he's just ******* up the whole team even with the experience he has.
Haukur Gudnason
::President Scouser::
Alex Ferguson's first job was to knock us off our f*cking perch. His last job will be to see us climb back on that f*cking perch.
Sir Alex will leave us as he found us..
Sir Alex will leave us as he found us..
Radical changes are needed at the club, we knew this last season, and they did not happen over the Summer. In my opinion the management has to put their hands up and admit their fault for this. Players like Fletcher, O'Shea etc aren't good enough - but then it's Ferguson who has decided to keep them on (offer them new contracts 
) and play them regularly despite a lot of the fans disagreeing. We all know the depth of our squad isn't anywhere near what it used to be - which is very apparant when you look at the other top european sides, in fact some of the top premiership sides, who can bring other top quality players on from the bench.
The problem is I don't see where we go from here. It just seems to be a vicious cycle where we have a damaging defeat / result this season (and last) - bounce back for a few games and then have another setback.
) and play them regularly despite a lot of the fans disagreeing. We all know the depth of our squad isn't anywhere near what it used to be - which is very apparant when you look at the other top european sides, in fact some of the top premiership sides, who can bring other top quality players on from the bench. The problem is I don't see where we go from here. It just seems to be a vicious cycle where we have a damaging defeat / result this season (and last) - bounce back for a few games and then have another setback.
Hopeunited
Starting XI
van Buyten?? A miserably slow old fart that used to play for City? Are you outta ur mind?Seven8 said:
birminghamfan2
Senior Squad
best pic from today's match , cristiano leaving the field 
Hopeunited
Starting XI
I think we should stick by Fergie until the end of this season at least. Staff changes in mid-season are never good, unless the team is dead last in the league and there is room for improvement in results. Fergie still might be able to prove a thing or two in the domestic cups and also in the league.
Fergie is not going to be easy to be replaced. Afterall, he is probably the one person that knows the most about this club. If he is going to be replaced, it's got to be another big time world class manager like Capello, no average Joe is gonna do.
Fergie is not going to be easy to be replaced. Afterall, he is probably the one person that knows the most about this club. If he is going to be replaced, it's got to be another big time world class manager like Capello, no average Joe is gonna do.
Internazionale
Elo Ratings
MU are out of CL & (UEFA Cup) competition ! 
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IceBlu
Guest
someones slow...
Voltaic Borusse
Fan Favourite
Haha 
And yeah, van Buyten is crap. I've seen him play when he was on loan at Man. City, and a couple of times for Hamburg. Dude makes mistakes like there's no tommorow.
And yeah, van Buyten is crap. I've seen him play when he was on loan at Man. City, and a couple of times for Hamburg. Dude makes mistakes like there's no tommorow.
C
Callum
Guest
Probably a trophyless season just like Real Madrid.
Artist: Jadakiss (feat. Anthony Hamilton)
Song: "Why?"
Album: "Kiss Of Death"
Ruff Ryders
[Jadakiss]
Aha
It's dat real
Yo, why is Jadakiss as hard as it gets
Why is the industry designed to keep the artist in debt
And why them dudes ain't ridin' if there part of your set
And why they never get it poppin' but they party to death
Yea, and why they gon give you life for a murder
Turn around only give you eight months for a burner, it's goin down
Why they sellin' niggaz CD's for under a dime
If it's all love daddy why you come wit your nine
Why my niggaz ain't get that cake
Why is a brother up North better than Jordan
That ain't get that break
Why you ain't stackin' instead of tryin' to be fly
Why is rattin' at an all time high
Why are you even alive
Why they kill Tupac n' Chris
Why at the bar you ain't take straight shots instead of poppin Crist'
Why them bullets have to hit that door
Why did Kobe have to hit that raw
Why he kiss that whore
Why
[Chorus: Anthony Hamilton]
All that I been givin'
Is this thing that I've been living
They got me in the system
Why they gotta do me like that
Try'd to make it my way
But got sent up on the highway
Why, oh why
Why they gotta do me like that
[Jadakiss]
Why would niggaz push pounds and powder
Why did bush knock down the towers
Why you around them cowards
Why Aaliyah have to take that flight
Why my nigga D ain't pull out his Ferrari
Why he take that bike
Why they gotta open your package and read your mail
Why they stop lettin' niggaz get degreez in jail
Why you gotta do eighty-five percent of your time
And why do niggaz lie in eighty-five percent of they rhymes
Why a nigga always want what he can't have
Why I can't come through in the pecan Jag
Why did crack have to hit so hard
Even though it's almost over
Why niggaz can't get no jobs
Why they come up wit the witness protection
Why they let the terminator win the election
Come on, pay attention
Why sell in the stores what you can sell in the streets
Why I say the hottest **** but we sellin' the least
[Chorus]
[Jadakiss]
Uh, yea, yo
Why Halle have to let a white man pop her to get a Oscar
Why Denzel have to be crooked before he took it
Why they didn't make the CL6 wit a clutch
And if you don't smoke why the hell you reachin' for my dutch
Why rap, cause I need air time
Why be on the curb wit a "why lie I need a beer" sign
Why all the young niggaz is dyin'
Cause they moms at work, they pops is gone, they livin' wit iron
Why they ain't give us a cure for aids
Why my diesel have fiends in the spot on the floor for days
Why you screamin' like it's slug, it's only the hawk
Why my buzz in L.A. ain't like it is in New York
Why you forcin' you to be hard
Why ain't you a thug by choice
Why the whole world love my voice
Why try to tell 'em that it's the flow son
And you know why they made the new twenties
Cause I got all my old ones
That's why
[Chorus]
Song: "Why?"
Album: "Kiss Of Death"
Ruff Ryders
[Jadakiss]
Aha
It's dat real
Yo, why is Jadakiss as hard as it gets
Why is the industry designed to keep the artist in debt
And why them dudes ain't ridin' if there part of your set
And why they never get it poppin' but they party to death
Yea, and why they gon give you life for a murder
Turn around only give you eight months for a burner, it's goin down
Why they sellin' niggaz CD's for under a dime
If it's all love daddy why you come wit your nine
Why my niggaz ain't get that cake
Why is a brother up North better than Jordan
That ain't get that break
Why you ain't stackin' instead of tryin' to be fly
Why is rattin' at an all time high
Why are you even alive
Why they kill Tupac n' Chris
Why at the bar you ain't take straight shots instead of poppin Crist'
Why them bullets have to hit that door
Why did Kobe have to hit that raw
Why he kiss that whore
Why
[Chorus: Anthony Hamilton]
All that I been givin'
Is this thing that I've been living
They got me in the system
Why they gotta do me like that
Try'd to make it my way
But got sent up on the highway
Why, oh why
Why they gotta do me like that
[Jadakiss]
Why would niggaz push pounds and powder
Why did bush knock down the towers
Why you around them cowards
Why Aaliyah have to take that flight
Why my nigga D ain't pull out his Ferrari
Why he take that bike
Why they gotta open your package and read your mail
Why they stop lettin' niggaz get degreez in jail
Why you gotta do eighty-five percent of your time
And why do niggaz lie in eighty-five percent of they rhymes
Why a nigga always want what he can't have
Why I can't come through in the pecan Jag
Why did crack have to hit so hard
Even though it's almost over
Why niggaz can't get no jobs
Why they come up wit the witness protection
Why they let the terminator win the election
Come on, pay attention
Why sell in the stores what you can sell in the streets
Why I say the hottest **** but we sellin' the least
[Chorus]
[Jadakiss]
Uh, yea, yo
Why Halle have to let a white man pop her to get a Oscar
Why Denzel have to be crooked before he took it
Why they didn't make the CL6 wit a clutch
And if you don't smoke why the hell you reachin' for my dutch
Why rap, cause I need air time
Why be on the curb wit a "why lie I need a beer" sign
Why all the young niggaz is dyin'
Cause they moms at work, they pops is gone, they livin' wit iron
Why they ain't give us a cure for aids
Why my diesel have fiends in the spot on the floor for days
Why you screamin' like it's slug, it's only the hawk
Why my buzz in L.A. ain't like it is in New York
Why you forcin' you to be hard
Why ain't you a thug by choice
Why the whole world love my voice
Why try to tell 'em that it's the flow son
And you know why they made the new twenties
Cause I got all my old ones
That's why
[Chorus]
SlowSilver
Fan Favourite
ngyc said:i just try to be sarcastic but in fact it was true
Jesus, shut up about that curse thing.
*In all my years of being a hard core united fan, i have felt miserably gutted at last night's performance and scenes.
*The goal scholes scored was nothing great. He bundled and fumbled it into the net.
After that i cant remember ONE CLEAR CHANCE we created.
*face it, the players lack determination and the DESIRE.
*Keano was true in saying that many players dont have the man united in them.
If someone was missing today, it was Keano .
*I dont blame this one on Fergie, we had our full strength squad and still could not put of Benfica? That is sick.
*I know the club is going through a transition period but performances like this are clearly an intent that united will be nothng but challengers in the epl, chasers in the CL and favourites for competitions like the League cup.whereas 2-3 seasons ago other teams chased United in every aspect.
*It's now 8 away games we have not won in the CL. Incidently Forlan had won us our last cl away game v panathinaikos.
*Last night's performance let down the aura of the ever present George Best, Sir Bobby Charlton and many more. It's a shame, a total shame.
especially after going through again the pre match build up like :
We Need 11 Heroes
Sir Alex Ferguson last night warned his Manchester United players not to rely on Wayne Rooney to dig them out of their Champions League hole against Benfica tonight. Ferguson said: "We need 11 players performing to the very highest standard. If we manage to do that, then I think we will definitely go through."
-David McDonnell, Daily Mirror
We'll Do It Just Like '66
Sir Alex Ferguson has warned Benfica that his players will be inspired by the memory of one of Manchester United's greatest triumphs as they seek to clinch Champions League qualification tonight. Ferguson said: "We are coming to the place where George made his reputation and we hope we can live up to that performance of 40 years ago. I think we will."
-Ian Ladyman, Daily Mail
We're A Hell Of A Team
Cristiano Ronaldo has warned Benfica fans: You don’t scare us. Benfica manager Ronald Koeman boasted his side’s supporters would make it ‘hell’ for Manchester United. But the Portuguese star dismissed Koeman’s threats. He said: “There is no way the crowd will affect us. At this club we get used to playing in those kind of environments.”(yeah right! and ronaldo was one of the worst players yesterday)
-Neil Custis, The Sun
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It's a shame . It's a total shame. I still think if United are to rise back up again , it may take a couple of seasons more and the man to do it is none other than Sir Alex Ferguson .
If he gets the sacj we need someone like Cantona or Keano.
*The goal scholes scored was nothing great. He bundled and fumbled it into the net.
After that i cant remember ONE CLEAR CHANCE we created.
*face it, the players lack determination and the DESIRE.
*Keano was true in saying that many players dont have the man united in them.
If someone was missing today, it was Keano .
*I dont blame this one on Fergie, we had our full strength squad and still could not put of Benfica? That is sick.
*I know the club is going through a transition period but performances like this are clearly an intent that united will be nothng but challengers in the epl, chasers in the CL and favourites for competitions like the League cup.whereas 2-3 seasons ago other teams chased United in every aspect.
*It's now 8 away games we have not won in the CL. Incidently Forlan had won us our last cl away game v panathinaikos.
*Last night's performance let down the aura of the ever present George Best, Sir Bobby Charlton and many more. It's a shame, a total shame.
especially after going through again the pre match build up like :
We Need 11 Heroes
Sir Alex Ferguson last night warned his Manchester United players not to rely on Wayne Rooney to dig them out of their Champions League hole against Benfica tonight. Ferguson said: "We need 11 players performing to the very highest standard. If we manage to do that, then I think we will definitely go through."
-David McDonnell, Daily Mirror
We'll Do It Just Like '66
Sir Alex Ferguson has warned Benfica that his players will be inspired by the memory of one of Manchester United's greatest triumphs as they seek to clinch Champions League qualification tonight. Ferguson said: "We are coming to the place where George made his reputation and we hope we can live up to that performance of 40 years ago. I think we will."
-Ian Ladyman, Daily Mail
We're A Hell Of A Team
Cristiano Ronaldo has warned Benfica fans: You don’t scare us. Benfica manager Ronald Koeman boasted his side’s supporters would make it ‘hell’ for Manchester United. But the Portuguese star dismissed Koeman’s threats. He said: “There is no way the crowd will affect us. At this club we get used to playing in those kind of environments.”(yeah right! and ronaldo was one of the worst players yesterday)
-Neil Custis, The Sun
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It's a shame . It's a total shame.
I still think if United are to rise back up again , it may take a couple of seasons more and the man to do it is none other than Sir Alex Ferguson .If he gets the sacj we need someone like Cantona or Keano.
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