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Indoor Soccer Gaming Patch Project Current Update for FIFA 2005

CForceForever

Youth Team
For all those interested in an indoor soccer gaming patch to be made for FIFA 2005, this will be the place to bring up ideas & discuss all that we'd like to have included in the patch, feel free to post them all here...

For posters that are in disagreement with this patch becoming made, please DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD. IF YOU POST BAD MESSAGES IN HERE, THE MODERATORS WILL DELETE YOUR MESSAGES. Thanks for your understanding.
 

Psyatika

Reserve Team
Good job mate, at least everything can be in place now, instead of all over the forum.

To anyone who wants this patch to happen, but is unable to help: please do not have a repeat of this:
http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95972&perpage=15&pagenumber=10
I can tell you that i (and hopefully all involved) will work as hard as we can to make this happen, but please remember that this is very hard work that needs to be done, and we're doing it for free, so please be patient. That being said, we will try our best to get it done as quickly and bug-free as possible.

What needs to be figured out
1) SET PIECES!!! Corners are taken from the new corner spot that i created. However, everyone lines up for the set piece as if the goal were back where it would be in a normal sized pitch. In other words, they line up out of bounds and behind the goal. The kick taker always tries to play to one of these players out of bounds and just puts the ball out of play.
Free kicks are a little better. The kicks are actually on the pitch (even in Practice mode), but the wall sets up off the pitch for some reason, as if they place themselves based on distance of the shot (they think "the ball is 25 metres from goal, i'll line up 15 metres from the ORIGINAL goal")
Penalties work well, but there is a different problem which i will discuss in a new point.
My question: How can i tell players to line up on the pitch for set pieces?

2) Camera angles. Camera angles on goal kicks and penalties are strange. Goal Kicks start off alright, but then the camera pulls away as if trying to focus on the old goal, leaving the actual playing field about 30 metres away. It's still visible, but this is annoying.
Penalties are messed up. The camera zooms way in on the goalkeeper, and you can't see the penalty taker. If you take too long to kick the penalty, the camera will gradually try to go through the goal and towards the original goal.
My question: how can i adjust camera angles on goal kicks and penalties?

3) Formation AI. Defenders for some reason are saddened by the smaller pitch. They always stand around the goal line, as if waiting for the right moment to quickly run back to the old penalty area. This leads to many futsal-style breakaways since the defenders are not forward enough to stop crosses close to the goal. Strikers get a lot of space since the defenders prefer to stay near the goal line. They will only come up if the ball comes near them (although i know how to fix this in the ai.ini file). Sometimes the CDs prefer to stand in the goal and pretend to be extra goalkeepers, stopping shots on the line.
My question: how can i edit the formadata kpr files, and how can i adjust formations to play correctly on the smaller pitch?

4) Players on the pitch. The most fundamental of all problems. Futsal is played 5 players per team (sometimes 6, but this is technically not futsal and not recognised by FIFA). It is also played with unlimited substitutions. It looks kinda crowded on the 2/3 scale pitch with all those players running around (although it's not too bad considering the defenders are all waiting to run off the pitch :D )
My question: Is there any way whatsoever to force teams to play short for the duration of the match? If the game terminates matches with fewer than 7 on a team, is there a way to override or reduce this number? If not, i'll accept 7 (or 8) per team.

5) Walls. The ability to set new zones in the pitch is a must (places where the ball is considered "in the goal" or "out of play"). I'd like to know how to designate areas of the pitch to be unpenetrable (so the ball can just bounce off instead of going through), and i'd like to set a smaller goal zone.

If anyone wants to help in any way, it is welcomed. This patch will be free, and everyone's hard work will be credited. Cheers


-Chas

I just read through the entire thread for the 2004 version of this patch.

A lot of people were very impatient, and it got to the point where people would have been just happy with reduced players on the pitch and a smaller field.

Well, what i have so far is already the reduced pitch size, which work in all existing stadiums. The field lines are drawn, but i don't actually know if it is the correct official size. The penalty area is standard outdoor size, although i didn't actually draw it in.

I invite anyone who worked on last year's effort to help out for this year's. I am certain we will have a patch ready this season.
 

lil_kewell

Reserve Team
Sounds great ! but sorry i am stupid with comps , if u can give me an easy job to do i will help, but if its all editing stuf then nah i dunno how to do that.
 

Phoenix

Reserve Team
good luck guys, i hope everything works out because we have all been dying for an indoor patch for years (still play rtwc98 for indoor matches) but as with every year its the whole concept of making encapsulating walls that brings the project to a halt- hopefully this year will be different. fingers crossed.
 

Psyatika

Reserve Team
Originally posted by pool4ever
lol. again. fifa 2003,. fifa 2004
Not sure what you mean by that...

I wasn't involved in any projects concerning those games. If you have nothing constructive to say, i'd suggest you sod off. No offense, of course.

What are the pitch dimensions for MISL? Anyone know?

What about Spanish League Futsal?
 

CForceForever

Youth Team
Originally posted by Psyatika
Not sure what you mean by that...

I wasn't involved in any projects concerning those games. If you have nothing constructive to say, i'd suggest you sod off. No offense, of course.

What are the pitch dimensions for MISL? Anyone know?

What about Spanish League Futsal?
The MISL field dimensions are in the MISL Rules, just download them from http://www.misl.net/gamerules/ , just open that up and read through it & it's show a field picture & dimentions are shown along with it...
 

Psyatika

Reserve Team
Cheers Cforce!

I'm on page 8 of my 8-10 page final paper (not due til thursday), and i have a final tomorrow and a project due thusday (it's just Italian though :) ), and then it's off to the family for Crimbo, but after that i will have the free time necessary to make any updates i can.

CForce: have you tried playing it? what do you think so far? Just in terms of gameplay and physics...i already know the graphics need work ;)
 

CForceForever

Youth Team
Originally posted by Psyatika
Cheers Cforce!

I'm on page 8 of my 8-10 page final paper (not due til thursday), and i have a final tomorrow and a project due thusday (it's just Italian though :) ), and then it's off to the family for Crimbo, but after that i will have the free time necessary to make any updates i can.

CForce: have you tried playing it? what do you think so far? Just in terms of gameplay and physics...i already know the graphics need work ;)
Well, I haven't gotten to it yet, but I should be able to this Friday, I'm off for Christmas & new Years then, I should be alot more available then. From what I read, you must have a pretty good patch under way...
 

CForceForever

Youth Team
If you see that this forum hasn't been responded to in a long time, doesn't mean it's no longer active. Just means we will discuss this topic later...
 

Psyatika

Reserve Team
I want to get more done, and possibly more help on the main parts that need to be fixed (see my first post, the second one in this thread), before giving out any sort of demo or beta. I gave CForce the files so he can see how it looks so far. If i can get more done, i'll put something on here with an uninstaller so that people could at least see that things are getting done.

I'm not overly concerned with making it look nice, i just want it to WORK.
 

CForceForever

Youth Team
Originally posted by Psyatika
I want to get more done, and possibly more help on the main parts that need to be fixed (see my first post, the second one in this thread), before giving out any sort of demo or beta. I gave CForce the files so he can see how it looks so far. If i can get more done, i'll put something on here with an uninstaller so that people could at least see that things are getting done.

I'm not overly concerned with making it look nice, i just want it to WORK.
We will update you when progress has been made...
 

Psyatika

Reserve Team
Just to give an update...

I've been trying to get in touch with people who have worked on previous installments of the patch for older FIFA games, to no avail.

I've been using trial and error to figure out walls, corners, and formations, again, to no avail.

I've tried to contact EA to get some insight on how to make necessary changes, no response.

At this point, i could just keep guessing, or give up. I'd rather not give up, so i'll come back to it every so often and try to get things done, but i can't promise success. FIFA 2005 is a lot different from older installments, so the same editing techniques used back then don't work on this version. Thanks for your patience.
 


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