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Frisgon's Solid Gameplay

jonajams

Club Supporter
frisgon;3872660 said:
V4B version available at post #1
Db and product
Better than V4: slower, tighter cpu defense, better home advantage; tactics default for now.

thank you man!
how much time you need for a complete version?
 

bromireal

Youth Team
jonajams;3872763 said:
thank you man!
how much time you need for a complete version?

What do you mean exactly?
This version should be fine. For now the gp is ok, need more testing in career.
Career files should be ok too.
I should edit tactics, but I see that causes problems to cpu defending.
Anyway I need your feedbacks to see if there is something to fix
 

mickyslim

Club Supporter
Can't wait to try your patched db. I hope player growth is as low as you claim:) It's way to unrealistic when the values haven't been edited! Will give you some feedback once I've had a play around. Didn't a chance to try your game play patch last time I posted.

Cheers
 

jonajams

Club Supporter
frisgon;3872824 said:
What do you mean exactly?
This version should be fine. For now the gp is ok, need more testing in career.
Career files should be ok too.
I should edit tactics, but I see that causes problems to cpu defending.
Anyway I need your feedbacks to see if there is something to fix

i actually would like to play a "complete" career, and so i don't know when I should start, as gameplays change... :)
 

bromireal

Youth Team
mickyslim;3873159 said:
Can't wait to try your patched db. I hope player growth is as low as you claim:) It's way to unrealistic when the values haven't been edited! Will give you some feedback once I've had a play around. Didn't a chance to try your game play patch last time I posted.

Cheers

jonajams;3873207 said:
i actually would like to play a "complete" career, and so i don't know when I should start, as gameplays change... :)

I hope to update the files today.
Some notes:

- if you want to play career you have to overwrite mw db number 4 not the other ones or it would crash (backup the mw db before)

- the player values files don't work unless you use my xml. Anyway I'm going to update those files for a standard xml as well; as mine has some modifications to camera that you may not like. Also with my xml you have to play slow speed ONLY or the game crashes

- Unfortunately, as I used as a base mw database 4.0 You can't play career if you don't have moddingway installed as the game will crash (in career).
So please install it (it's worth it anyway and it's not complicated)

Final updates in the afternoon, hopefully.
I wanted to change some tactics to the small teams, so thay won't play tiki taka anymore; but it's more complicated than I thought as if you customize them the cpu defending messes up.
 

jonajams

Club Supporter
thank you a lot for these improvements :D
I haven't read around here but...do i have to restart the career if i use this gameplay?
and more, if i'm using mw db 1.01, is it a problem?
 

bromireal

Youth Team
jonajams;3873222 said:
thank you a lot for these improvements :D
I haven't read around here but...do i have to restart the career if i use this gameplay?
and more, if i'm using mw db 1.01, is it a problem?

Last db version is based on mw db 4 from mw 1.01 so it's ok
Yes you have to change the db so you have to restart career
Later I will upload the files career for the default xml. Those files can be used also for an already started career; but the db no. Anytime you change a db you have to restart it
 

jonajams

Club Supporter
frisgon;3873234 said:
Last db version is based on mw db 4 from mw 1.01 so it's ok
Yes you have to change the db so you have to restart career
Later I will upload the files career for the default xml. Those files can be used also for an already started career; but the db no. Anytime you change a db you have to restart it

ok, i started a career with db 1.0 and i don't want to restart is only for the gameplay (as these change quite quickly, i should start a new career every week!)
 

bromireal

Youth Team
Final Version V5 available at post #1. I'll explain the new features later.
Career files, db and product.ini
 

robinsonik

Club Supporter
frisgon;3874088 said:
Final Version V5 available at post #1. I'll explain the new features later.
Career files, db and product.ini

Fantastic job, many of us are you grateful for your gameplay that is compatible with MW , the connection is simply perfect !!!:33vff3o:
 

bromireal

Youth Team
robinsonik;3874326 said:
Fantastic job, many of us are you grateful for your gameplay that is compatible with MW , the connection is simply perfect !!!:33vff3o:

Thank you! Glad to hear that; very much appreciated.:cb:
 

bromireal

Youth Team
Hi guys do you think the gp is ok?
Because yesterday I played something like 15 matches in career and the game was great: slow pace, hard to build up gameplay, cpu defending great, difficulty level very high.
Today I played career and the game was nonsense once again: cpu not defending at all, my players speeding up like crazy (in my db acceleration is set average to 15 and sprintspeed to 5.......) zero midfield gameplay. Played 5 matches then I had to quit.
I thought it was something to do with player form and morale as everybody in my team were high.
So I edited the career file for form and morale: now everybody is low; but nothing they keep playing as if they were supermen. So I tried a friendly match: same thing.
I thought I had fixed many problems but now everything is like before; even my db seems not to run; it looks like the default gameplay!!
I don't know what goes on with this game; I'm not even sure anymore is about cpu cheating/boosting my players. I think the game is broken; it looks like some kind of bug that erase the difficulty level.
It wasn't even some matches that played bad. It played bad all the time!!! While yesterday it played good all the time!
I also tried a match at world clas instead of legendary and today world class was much harder than legendary (not hard enough, still stupid but better than legendary).
Tomorrow I'll try another last couple of things but I tried almost everything and yesterday the game was nearly perfect; today it sucks... I don't know what to do about it. The guys who has tried my gp can please tell me if they find it ok or not?
Cheers...
 

bromireal

Youth Team
regularcat;3874455 said:
CPUAI_USE_DIFFICULTY = 0

Try using this and disabling adaptive difficulty.

I'll try that but for adaptive difficulty I used a trick to make cpu play better and disable the ones to play worst. It has always worked.
It seems something strange in the game. For example right now I restarted the pc and the game is decent once again (just a little too fast).

Just a question: I tried to edit playerformdiff and teamformdiff in db. I thought at the beginning the game was harder and more stable but I'm not sure anymore. Do you have any idea what it does exactly? I thought that compressing those values to similar range it would reduce the gp changes (before you had defensiverate changing from 25 to 77) Now I have it from 90 to 99. Do you think it applies only to the cpu or also the user?

Also: in db I see in careermanager table matchdifficulty that in the xml has a range from 1 to 5. I changed the range from 4 to 5. And yesterday was fine. Anyway I checked with im12 and the difficulty is still set fixed to 5 but the game is stupidly easy today
 

robinsonik

Club Supporter
frisgon;3874463 said:
I'll try that but for adaptive difficulty I used a trick to make cpu play better and disable the ones to play worst. It has always worked.
It seems something strange in the game. For example right now I restarted the pc and the game is decent once again (just a little too fast).

Just a question: I tried to edit playerformdiff and teamformdiff in db. I thought at the beginning the game was harder and more stable but I'm not sure anymore. Do you have any idea what it does exactly? I thought that compressing those values to similar range it would reduce the gp changes (before you had defensiverate changing from 25 to 77) Now I have it from 90 to 99. Do you think it applies only to the cpu or also the user?

Also: in db I see in careermanager table matchdifficulty that in the xml has a range from 1 to 5. I changed the range from 4 to 5. And yesterday was fine. Anyway I checked with im12 and the difficulty is still set fixed to 5 but the game is stupidly easy today

Unfortunately, I have the same thing .... previous version was much better , although very difficult ... now actually there is something wrong ... ?
 

bromireal

Youth Team
robinsonik;3874579 said:
Unfortunately, I have the same thing .... previous version was much better , although very difficult ... now actually there is something wrong ... ?

Which version have you got? I mean what "previous versions" DBV4B? Which xml were you using?
Which db, product.ini and career files?

Have you tested the last version in career only? And the previous one?

Can you tell more specifically what are the problems you are finding in the last version?

thx
 

bromireal

Youth Team
Hi guys; I'm uploading a fixed version. I should run more tests but I played several career matches and now it seems to work fine. Please replace the previous one that was broken and tell me if you still find problems
 

bromireal

Youth Team
I tried the product.ini form 4bversion on v5b version: it's better: more difficult.
Cpu attacking is more flat in that product, but defending is better
If you find the game still too easy i suggest you use that one
 

nubolt

Youth Team
frisgon;3870844 said:
Thanks for the feedback! Also if you see some defects please tell them so I can try and maybe improve it.

Thanks again for your efforts, Frisgon. I really appreciate it!

I still love the flow of the game and how the CPU reacts more aggressively, including fouls (even when they too often not get booked...).

What I do not like that much is that bouncing balls always seem to go to the opponent. And liberation balls from the CPU too often go exactly to one of her strikers.

Besides that, I had some of my best digital footballgames ever with your gameplay edits (V5B actually). Maybe I should mention, that I only play with average or little above average teams from Argentina and Chile. ;)
 

bromireal

Youth Team
nubolt;3875164 said:
Thanks again for your efforts, Frisgon. I really appreciate it!

I still love the flow of the game and how the CPU reacts more aggressively, including fouls (even when they too often not get booked...).

What I do not like that much is that bouncing balls always seem to go to the opponent. And liberation balls from the CPU too often go exactly to one of her strikers.

Besides that, I had some of my best digital footballgames ever with your gameplay edits (V5B actually). Maybe I should mention, that I only play with average or little above average teams from Argentina and Chile. ;)

Great! Thanks for the comment!
For ball clearance I also noticed that. Actually I tried to edit something in the product.ini. Maybe we can raise some values there for clearance and accurate clearance. I didn't do it because finally v5a problems seems fixed and I didn't want to touch too much as Fifa seems a little bit touchy :tongue:
Anyway I'll take a look.
The bouncing balls which first touch error are you using? default?
 


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