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FIFA 14 faces by Skoczek

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Skoczek

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I have a matter for you.

If anyone found me on any Discord of FIFA modding servers, they probably know my view on the now common practice of hiding everything behind a paywall, or worse, a subscription to patreon and buymeacoffee.
Everything I did here was always intended to be free, for everyone, on the assumption that, from a legal point of view, it was all a grey area.
No modder can sue me if I do something with his work without his approval, because it's all Electronic Arts' intellectual property. If they want, they would close it all down.
In other words, it has led to a situation where everyone who learns how to open Blender creates an account on Patreon. Nowadays "supporting creativity" is just paying - preferably every month to get updates which often add loads of stuff or more importantly support the latest Title Updates.
Contrary to their claims, words of support, positive reception, sharing this and even thumbs up are no longer "supporting creativity".
To me, this is sick.

OK, but why am I writing to you about this? After all, my opinion will not change anything.

I have PayPal and have included a link to it in the description if anyone would like to help me fund the purchase of all the latest FIFAs from 06's upwards (I recently reached my goal). I didn't expect anything, I did it a bit for nothing. I mention this because it's probably the only way I received a deposit worth about 1 US dollar yesterday. For encouragement. In the attached message, the person asked if I accept requests to make faces for FIFA 14 for money. You know, you pay something there, you ask for a face for one footballer, I do it.
This is where I turn to you. Because do you think I should allow it? Would you accept it?
Right away I would have to point out that if I were to accept it already, then:
1. I would have to do it
2. the link to it would be public and free (no early access)
3. I would not be making a stall. I mean a predetermined price wouldn't be, as long as someone didn't go overboard.
4. Free requests would continue to be respected (although in my case, not fulfilling them was due to burnout and pure laziness). Keep in mind that I do a lot more stuff.
In other words - it would not be a service, but a gift for a donation. I don't see any problem with this model. Of course, this would all assume that I would be doing so. If you still want the money to stay away from what I do, I will inform the contributor as much as possible, because he asked about it.
There will be no shutting down, no Patreon serving as a shop, no exclusive content, nothing.

I just want your feedback, thanks.

PS. Here is a poll for voting by numbers: https://www.strawpoll.me/45955497

tl;dr Someone pays me a dollar and asks if I accept this type of service. What should I do?
 

redo1000

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Depends if you want to have a business out of it or simple doing it because it is your hobby ;) you were creating those faces because you liked it, wanted them. Doing the requests for money would raise a question whether you would still enjoy it or it would be only a ruthless, ordinary job. If it would be still the first one, then why not if you would have a demand and you are ok with it.
But personaly, i don´t like much this "pay for face" approach, for me it is more about keeping still FIFA 14 alive, contributing and repaying at least a bit to whole community who already shared their stuff for free.
But on the other hand, there are a lot of ungratefull people around, so who knows :D Ask your innerself and get aligned based on your "moral & ethic" principles :D haha
 

Skoczek

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Skoczek

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you were wiser than me
That guy that wanted to pay me for faces asked for around dozen of them, from which there were guys who retired 7 years ago. The best of them were Andre Santos and Sebastien Abreu.
Thanks, but no.
 
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V.K

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If I were ever to pay for fifa 14 faces, I'd also definitely request something barely anyone would do for free: obscure classic players and little-known local heroes of my childhood.
 

M8no2001

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you were wiser than me
That guy that wanted to pay me for faces asked for around dozen of them, from which there were guys who retired 7 years ago. The best of them were Andre Santos and Sebastien Abreu.
Thanks, but no.
What’s the problem by requesting players which career is over for a long time?
This players give us back childhood memories
When you want to play with actual players it‘s perhaps not the best idea to play FIFA 14
 

Skoczek

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What’s the problem by requesting players which career is over for a long time?
This players give us back childhood memories
When you want to play with actual players it‘s perhaps not the best idea to play FIFA 14
The other 5 of those footballers I don't even know.
If someone wants tomake faces for these guys, I have no problem with it, but I just won't get around to it.
As for your last statement don't even irritate me and see what I am doing here. What I am putting in. What I do.
No, and that's it. Especially if someone asks for 7 at once.
 

M8no2001

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The other 5 of those footballers I don't even know.
If someone wants tomake faces for these guys, I have no problem with it, but I just won't get around to it.
As for your last statement don't even irritate me and see what I am doing here. What I am putting in. What I do.
No, and that's it. Especially if someone asks for 7 at once.
When you think about let you pay for your faces you shouldn’t complain about requests from people who are even ready to pay you.
By the way I am not the one who requested this players. It is your right no to make them but why complaining?
Anyway I respect your work especially because you make a big contribution for expanding fifa classic patch
 
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Skoczek

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When you think about let you pay for your faces you shouldn’t complain about requests from people who are even ready to pay you.
By the way I am not the one who requested this players. It is your right no to make them but why complaining?
Anyway I respect your work especially because you make a big contribution for expanding fifa classic patch
But you know that in such a case, even if I wanted to, I would decide on what rules it should be?
I am complaining because this is the national trait of Poles - complaining. ;-)
But seriously, I don't like when someone writes me "do this" and puts in a list of 20 things.
Anyway, people decided, we stay with what it is.
 

M8no2001

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But you know that in such a case, even if I wanted to, I would decide on what rules it should be?
I am complaining because this is the national trait of Poles - complaining. ;-)
But seriously, I don't like when someone writes me "do this" and puts in a list of 20 things.
Anyway, people decided, we stay with what it is.
Ok mate
I didn’t know the circumstances he requested.
Keep on creating your project and keeping alive fifa 14.
 
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