FIFA 08 Wish List - Next Generation

[zeus78]

- good gameplay (sorry EA, better than fifa 06 but still bad)
- better phyiscs (the same like gameplay, better now but still bad).
- more options for tactics
- goalkeeper (in fifa 07 there are no goalkeeper, there are clowns)
- better editor
- more choices ingame, vor example ball choice etc.
- new graphic engine
- more faces
- better individual basics for the players
- more realistic (players without ball are slower than player with ball).

jesus what a bad game

 

[djdavedoc]

For Xbox 360 users the ability to map yourself and your friends into the game using the XBox Live Vision Camera! Wouldnt that be sweet??!!

DJ

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

1. Much improved gameplay
2. Total customization of fans, ultras (i.e: design own banners, flares, flags, level of rowdiness, colors, pancartas, etc.)
3. Longer better celebrations
4. Import own chants
5. Hostile atmospheres (i.e: profane chants against visitors,racist chants...resulting in bans, fines (in manager mode) etc.)
6. Streaker in finals, huge matches
7. Import your own face via camera as someone else pointed out
8. Stadium editor (# of seats, dome?, color, luxury boxes?, nonseater sections like in the good ol days, fences, velodrome style, olymoic track, etc)This would be great in mannager mode.
9. Include Champions League
10. Match preview (i.e: watching players get off bus, walking through press, fans, pan around the outside of the stadium to soak in the atmosphere before a big match.
11. Few, very few riots in the terraces that spill onto the pitch...but make it context sensitive such as at a River Plate - Boca match.
12. Occasional scuffles on the pitch between players via temper attributes + context.
13. Off the field training (i.e: tapping buttons hard or simultaneously to perform sprints, obstacle courses, lift weight, ride bike, etc. Results reflecting match fitness.
14. Customized cgoal celebrations (i.e: see PES/WE)

I know some of it might be controversial. Whether I agree with it or not does not matter. Bottom line is that if it happens in real life, I want it in the game. Period! Total realism is what I want.

 

[Aragorn]

5. Hostile atmospheres (i.e: profane chants against visitors,racist chants...resulting in bans, fines (in manager mode) etc.)
11. Few, very few riots in the terraces that spill onto the pitch...but make it context sensitive such as at a River Plate - Boca match.

Hmmm......, ??????????????

Then it will be no football, real football is without all this shhiitt...racist chants??? man, please....there´s always the same few fools on the fields that do all of this stuff and is really sad, make the game very sad, and is a thing that we are trying to eleminate from football, like this fecked shhhiittt of ultras, boixos, and this totally foolish and childish thing. Indeed, it is not football. So, how can help if programers introduce this kind of ridiculous things when we HATE it when it happends, when we are fighting agains this sshhiittt.!!!!

Anyway, im dont worry, i dont think that any company can make a football game with all that you had commented.

Take care

neovico
The Mind

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

As I suspected! An ignorant comment. By the way, there is a difference between ultras and hooligans...but you probably wouldn't know that. Ultras come on all shapes, sizes and backgrounds. The common denominator is supporting the club 100%. Gathering as a group, kind of like afan club if you will. Ultras are mostly visible, not hiding from anyone or anything, and for the most part do not seek out violence. Sure, there are individuals, like in any group, that get out of hand but it's not their aim. Many ultra groups are against violence, for many reasons. Hooligans have no purpose but to beat each other up. that's the difference. But, I guess it's so easy to have the media brainwash you. Cheers!

 

[BYF079]

Be abel to move the player more freeely, like be abe to get closer to th keeper and tackel him like the old fifa's ..be able to move during set peaces and free kicks and a lot more

 

[Ash_Clarke]

Onvy your idea to introduce racism into a game shows really how ignorant you are. There are enough problems in the world without creating more by putting this into a football game.

 

[Aragorn]

As I suspected! An ignorant comment. By the way, there is a difference between ultras and hooligans...but you probably wouldn't know that. Ultras come on all shapes, sizes and backgrounds. The common denominator is supporting the club 100%. Gathering as a group, kind of like afan club if you will. Ultras are mostly visible, not hiding from anyone or anything, and for the most part do not seek out violence. Sure, there are individuals, like in any group, that get out of hand but it's not their aim. Many ultra groups are against violence, for many reasons. Hooligans have no purpose but to beat each other up. that's the difference. But, I guess it's so easy to have the media brainwash you. Cheers!

Oh!!! Thanks a lot for to let me see the truth!! How ignorant as i am!!!
Then, people that make paint on the outside walls of the stadiums when they are dont agree with something, people that are screaming racist things during the macth, people like that (for to say them people), people that beat to other fans, etc,..are they hooligans?, So, then let me view the light answering this: Why this things ALWAYS comes from people like Boixos (thanks God that they are no more in the stadium), Ultrasur, Frente, etc???? Let me answer it without make you think (much better). Because all of this kind of people is the same, ultras = hooligans, they are TRUE media brainwash. Is very sad to use football, and the name of a club for to do vandalism acts or use the club as a pretext for to do all of this shhiittt.

So, as Ash says, the idea of introduce racism and riots in football show what kind of people or group do you belong. Is really sad to hear how you can defend this things....poor, really poor.

Take care

neovico
The Mind

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Your point of racism being stupid, etc...of course it's a very valid point and one I agree with. I also don't agree with violence. That wasn't my point at all. My point was to have real world events included. And by the way, the stuff I pointed out does happen in football. Plus, I pointed out to make everything context sensitive. For example, the fights and all that mayhem does happen in Argentina, Brasil and many other places in the world. The point is not to take the attention away from the game but to have the legitimate atmosphere...all in proper context of course. If they can make a game about car crashes (Burnout), where the aim is to crash and score points, then what's so wrong with having a streaker in a Real - Barca game? Or the very very infrequent mini riot? I mean, just because you play Burnout doesn't mean you are promoting car wrecks right? You guys need to take a load off and relax, really. And the whole thing about ultras is a very grey area. Groups such as Ultrastito (sampdoria) & OV (real madrid) are opposed to violence and are made up of very respectable people, including professionals, and mature people with families that know better. I am one of them. It is very sad that a few rotten apples ruin it for everyone. Just remember, the ultras are the ones that animate the stadiums, back the clubs in many occasions and bring the stadium to life. If it weren't for us many stadiums would be graveyards.

 

[Aragorn]

You said it, the point is that "It is very sad that a few (ultras) rotten apples ruin it for everyone.", is just the reason for my point, due this kind of people, nevermind if they are ultras, hooligans or what..... but this people ruin all beatiful macthes, and this people is normaly within this kind of groups.

So, you cannot compare a game like Burnout with the theme, i mean, racism is a very deep and real problem in our society. Burnout dont reflect reality, in part, i meant, you dont recieve the drive permission for to drive like in the game, the game is only an arcade racing that leave your enjoy "totally outside" of the reality, but to introduce a real society problem in a game, is completly different.

Take care

neovico
The Mind

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Neo, not trying to be wise or anything but what about war games and fighting games?????????????? That's even sadder since millions are killed annually throughout the world. These games reflect reality perfectly! So does it mean that it's promoting war? I thought my suggestions for next gen were pretty fair...I'm a realist. I know the racism thing would never fly but it's just a suggestion. and it's in context. I think those points I brought out would work well in manager mode where you control everything about aclub and these things happening through attribute meters. And the fact that you get fined, have to play behind closed doors, etc. send the message throught the game that that behavior is wrong and won't be tolerated. Whether you know it or not it's their in our society and accepted by most. racism, slavery will always be around. It's like a capitalist system where you need to keep people poor and down in order for the rich to be rich. It's all economics now but it's their...believe me. racism occurs all the time and it's sad that most people don't realize it. Of course they tell you that "the apartment has been sold..." instead of saying "We can't sell you apartments in this area cause you're chines, black, or whatever. Very hypocritical...

 

[Ash_Clarke]

Real world events? Yeah Cool, but does it really have to extend to the extreme?
Racism is or can be a terrifying and daunting experience and can you imagine playing the game with your home team and suddenly the away crowd in the stadium of a game start chanting racist songs, etc at you? It's one of the things that has heavy controversy and there are groups aiming to abolish this from football. The problem with having it in a game, although to most it's just an extra, to some it condones racial behaviour and to others it can even cause offence, even hurt. People may play this game, and a racial chant comes up, and it remind them of all the bad experiences they have had as a result of racism. Some people have even lost family members, had them arrested, or basically had their lives ruined by racism, in football or otherwise.

Fair enough, we all want a true to life football experience, with an immense degree of realism, but really, EA should be focusing on the graphics, the gameplay and the customer satisfaction and enjoyment. They don't want a boycott on their hands.

I'll give a couple more examples before I shut up: Grand Theft Auto. This game caused uber amounts of controversy, lawsuits, problems etc. The more money that goes on this, the less goes into production, development etc. Also, the result of this is, anyone that hasn't played the game themselves, will know that the game has an awful reputation (I'm mainly talking about non-gamers and parents etc.). Rockstar have also recently created a game called Bully, which also caused a bit of a ruckus (US: rumpus), due to some anti-pc game guy saying that it condones violence, hatred and promotes bullying to school children. It turned out in this case, the game actually puts the player on the receiving end, but the main point is still there. Games with these extremeties get noticed, and noticed by the wrong people... anti-gamers. I don't want this for FIFA 08, 09 10 etc.

Don't take this personally.
Peace
-- Ash

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Maybe as a cheat code like GTA's...that way if you don't want streakers you don't have to deal with it. I guess war is cool....so American. War = good for kids, watch Iraqi's get blown up but Sex = bad, god forbid!Alright, lets drop the racism. What about my other suggestions like panning outside the stadium, crowd, pregame behind the scenes to allow you to feel the big big games, soak in the atmosphere, build up the anxiety, excitement, etc? A good example would be like on Fox Soccer en Espanol, they have ashow called "La Previa" which means preview. They have a whole half hour of showing the players getr on the bus, on the way to the stadium, warming up, etc. all to the beat of great music. They show the fans, etc....check it out sometime. It's very unusual but awesome. This of course only as a novelty...EA has more things to worry about like getting gamneplay down pact which I fear is never going to happen.

 

[Aragorn]

Well, we are going away from the theme. Anyway, im agree about that there´s war games, etc, but is case sensitive, let me explain. The theme of the game itself is the war, ficticious wars sometimes, other are historic battles, etc....but is the theme of the game, you like more or not but is the theme. Opossite of this, in a football game the theme is football, not racism.

So, for example, in war happends things really cruely. Violations, killed childs, dead mothers on the ground, fanatism, etc,,,,. Did you see this things on any war game?, No, because the theme is war, not his consecuences...anyway is a totally hipotetic game, you are not killing to anyone, is minus than to play with painballs, but if you introduce this other elements, this real concecuenses, you could not will play this game due is to arrive far beyond the line. Anyway in any war game you can start and start again, you never die....so is not real, but if you hear in a game racism words, it can be recorded in your mind.

I think that people is enought mature to discern between game and real (this is not matrix), so only the really sick people can say that "a game influenced me to kill my..." you know....

Well, leaving the theme closed, almost for my part, 1 thing: Fuuckk the war, fuuckk the assasins, fuucckk the terrorism, fuuckk the governments that sell weapons to the terrorist, fuuuckkk the racism, fuuuuckk this killer hipocrity society, etc. We have enought sshhiittt in real life for to introduce it on the moments where you want to enjoy with a game in your console. 2 words: LOVE and PEACE.

Take care

neovico
The Mind

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Neovico, good points. and yes, fuuuuk all that sh!!!te. Now, back to the futbol. I would love to see way more stadiums. Imagine if every stadium from Spain, England, Germany, Argentina, Holland, etc. were in the game! Or at least in the top 5 or 6 leagues. With enough time, they can definitely fit it in the 360, PS3.

 

[pefan]

For some clown to suggest adding hooliganism or racist elements in a videogame that children are going to be playing is a joke. Why have no to racism on the adboards in the game if your going to add it into the game. Make sense man.

I dont agree with that and just like Rockstar games had problems when they put a dialogue in their game saying kill those Haitians EA will get in trouble with many people if they even think about introducing Hooliganism or Racist elements in a game kids are going to be playing. What a joke suggestion. Only an ignoramus will suggest that.

EA i'm sure are only interested in improving the gameplay amongst many things. And rightly so. I mean they really want to draw attention to detail and make progress and that is what they should be looking at. All these mickey mouse suggestions like hooliganism doesnt need to be in there. People are forgetting the main purpose.

Its a videogame! Realism on the pitch yes. Realism off the pitch YES Realism off the pitch in society NO!

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Wow! PeFan! You are so fuuukkking Anal! My goodness, take aload off. Get a sense of humor, buy one if possible. Calling me an ignoramis and aclown is even dumber considering you have no idea who I am what I do and how much I know! First of all, it was meant as a joke. I wanted to see how people would react, etc. Second of all, of course it won't happen. I know that! People always talk about realism so I gave them something to contemplate. Gameplay, gameplay, gameplay is what Fifa need to work on...it's so obvious. Get a life man!

 

[Ash_Clarke]

First of all, it was meant as a joke. I wanted to see how people would react, etc.!

What's the point, it's obvious how they'll react. No-one likes racism, unless they're a moron.

Anyway, this point was discussed an finished... move on... and that means everybody.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Yes, move on! Geeez. What about my other suggestions I originally posted? I thought they were fairly interesting.

 

[pefan]

Shut it man..Maybe its people like you that are the reason for developers adding silly things in games. Maybe your a lover of violence who knows. Sense of humour..lolol thats fresh man. Your the one suggesting hooliganism in a game. Maybe you find that funny. Dummy.