FIFA 08 UK ign Review.......

[hambugaler]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/822/822487p1.html


7.7

8.0 Presentation
The trademark EA Sports polish is in evidence, although team management menus could be set up better.
8.5 Graphics
Player animations are up to scratch, the close-ups are impressive, and the authentically reproduced stadiums look superb.
8.5 Sound
Martin Tyler and Andy Gray’s commentary extends to comments on individual clubs, the crowd noise is atmospheric, and goalscorers are even announced over the tannoy.
7.0 Gameplay
Somewhat stunted, the action is often middle-to-middle as opposed to end-to- end, and the lack of goal chances can prove frustrating.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
You could easily play out an entire season, with or without the fiddly management mode, and the suite of online options gives it further legs.
7.7
Good OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)


is this a trust worthy review?

 

[Jore2]

7.0 Gameplay
Somewhat stunted, the action is often middle-to-middle as opposed to end-to- end, and the lack of goal chances can prove frustrating.

That's called football in reality... seems like reviewer don't like football in reality, but more arcade gaming...

 

[jjgadget]

is this a trust worthy review?

In the past IGN always slagged off Fifa and sometimes they had a fairly good reason to give low scores to the Fifa series , But this year they are talking complete rubbish, Fifa08 NG is by FAR the best Fifa game ever made and is truly next gen & takes alot of skill and practice to play well, which this reviewer obviously has none of.
IGN cannot be trusted to make an unbiased review of Fifa08 next gen, if you want a trusted mini-review see here:-

http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148225

 

[The Don't]

The reviewer seems to criticise the fact that it actually plays like football this time.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

In the past IGN always slagged off Fifa and sometimes they had a fairly good reason to give low scores to the Fifa series , But this year they are talking complete rubbish, Fifa08 NG is by FAR the best Fifa game ever made and is truly next gen & takes alot of skill and practice to play well, which this reviewer obviously has none of.
IGN cannot be trusted to make an unbiased review of Fifa08 next gen, if you want a trusted mini-review see here:-

http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148225

Yeah right, IGN has always been all over EA's nuts about this series. They bump up their final rating all the time when their comments suggest that the game deserves a 5.

 

[nickclubman]

The reviewer seems to criticise the fact that it actually plays like football this time.

that's very true and exactly what he does. He's clueless.

 

[Sinspaw]

You guys finally get a professional opinion saying what a lot people have been saying - gameplay is better but not that good. And still, you trash the professional's review. Okay then, let's wait for more reviews saying the same 'till you can admit that Fifa isn't that godly. And by this I don't mean at all that PES is better, just that FIFA isn't that good.

 

[Robbie_boy]

He's just a PES-Fanboy...... anyone can see that.......

if fifa got a 7.7 then pes will be around 5.5......

people like that should not be reviewing games........

RB

P.S. how can that be a professional review he set out not to like it........

 

[LuvPES]

You guys finally get a professional opinion saying what a lot people have been saying - gameplay is better but not that good. And still, you trash the professional's review. Okay then, let's wait for more reviews saying the same 'till you can admit that Fifa isn't that godly. And by this I don't mean at all that PES is better, just that FIFA isn't that good.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that was a weak review, a professional indeed? he never touched on the new A.I., the new ball physics, the tackling system he didn't like IMO is great etc I have no clue what he wanted there... FIFA 08 is a true sim of football, the closest thing any of us has ever seen in a video game and these guys are right that he is punishing FIFA for being a true sim of the sport, it may not be the fast, fun, crazy gameplay like pro evo but there are people like me just want a true sim of our beloved sport with good gameplay which FIFA 08 is

What's wrong with that?

 

[Jore2]

You guys finally get a professional opinion saying what a lot people have been saying - gameplay is better but not that good. And still, you trash the professional's review. Okay then, let's wait for more reviews saying the same 'till you can admit that Fifa isn't that godly. And by this I don't mean at all that PES is better, just that FIFA isn't that good.

So he is saying "it's not end-to end" and still you think he is pro? Maybe when talking about computer games, but not when it comes to football. Football isn't about end-to-end, but most of game is in every game in the middfield.

 

[Sinspaw]

Well how about this I've been playing football games since 97/98, when I played fifa 98 and onwards. I can say I almost have 10 years of it. And I think that today, FIFA is an average game. Nice graphics but odd faces, nice details but overall, I'd say average gameplay to say to overstate it. I got bored of it in the demo. Maybe it's closer to simulation as you say, but ehm, I play games to have fun and I don't really have fun playing in low difficulty and find hard to make decent shots. Even when so, shots come weak, and just bad performed. Also I have already mentioned in some other post, the shots just don't look real. There hasn't been a single time that I pushed a maximum power and the ball went flying. How close to real is that? Shots go either : weak, if somewhat strong goalkeeper makes a fantastic save, or if not direct at the goalie, they don't go wide, they just go near the post, always. And players seem to turn themselves away from the goalie, when the shots go off, instead of just kicking the ball badly. I've seen terrible gliches on the gameplay that turns the reality down. And yea, it's still somewhat nice to play it for a while imho, and I don't seem to have much in the long run. I want to pay for something nice. I expected more, so I agree with the review at some points. Sorry if you guys don't agree.

 

[LuvPES]

Well how about this I've been playing football games since 97/98, when I played fifa 98 and onwards. I can say I almost have 10 years of it. And I think that today, FIFA is an average game. Nice graphics but odd faces, nice details but overall, I'd say average gameplay to say to overstate it. I got bored of it in the demo. Maybe it's closer to simulation as you say, but ehm, I play games to have fun and I don't really have fun playing in low difficulty and find hard to make decent shots. Even when so, shots come weak, and just bad performed. Also I have already mentioned in some other post, the shots just don't look real. There hasn't been a single time that I pushed a maximum power and the ball went flying. How close to real is that? Shots go either : weak, if somewhat strong goalkeeper makes a fantastic save, or if not direct at the goalie, they don't go wide, they just go near the post, always. And players seem to turn themselves away from the goalie, when the shots go off, instead of just kicking the ball badly. I've seen terrible gliches on the gameplay that turns the reality down. And yea, it's still somewhat nice to play it for a while imho, and I don't seem to have much in the long run. I want to pay for something nice. I expected more, so I agree with the review at some points. Sorry if you guys don't agree.

Dude have you ever played football or watched it, most of the shots in a game go wide or over the bar and I don't agree with you about the shots they are as realistic as they come, sometime I feel like I am on the pitch because the way you have to position yourself, give yourself room and time to take a nice shot, you just can't run up to the wall and kick accurately and as far as the bugs, all games have bugs and it's a demo on the 3rd highest difficulty level.

That's fine if you want more fun in your gameplay sacrificing simulation because there are many people who want that also (just play Mario Strikers) but many others like me want a true sim of football that is also fun. I have been through the same argument with Madden Football which I detest and a true sim like NFL 2K8.

It's an average game TO YOU, it is a hell of an awesome game to me.

 

[Sinspaw]

It's a average game TO YOU, it is a hell of an awesome game to me.

Of course, It's just my opinion and all I can hope is that you respect it.

Dude have you ever played football or watched it, most of the shots in a game go wide or over the bar

Yea, and that's precisely what I mean. Shots go all to easy on the goalie or just a BIT over the bar or just a BIT beside the post. Never too far away, that's unreal. Try shooting from long range and tell me, does it ever go a decent shot? because 19 out of 20 for me go weak and directly to the GK.

 

[LuvPES]

Of course, It's just my opinion and all I can hope is that you respect it.



Yea, and that's precisely what I mean. Shots go all to easy on the goalie or just a BIT over the bar or just a BIT beside the post. Never too far away, that's unreal. Try shooting from long range and tell me, does it ever go a decent shot? because 19 out of 20 for me go weak and directly to the GK.

Honestly I have no problems getting it on net, you need to practice, changining the camea angle helps like the one they use in the arena

 

[Sinspaw]

Honestly I have no problems getting it on net, you need to practice, changining the camea angle helps like the one they use in the arena

I shouldn't have to change cameras to play better, I should play on what I like the most. I could get better and the shots would still be 'ugh' for me.

 

[LuvPES]

I shouldn't have to change cameras to play better, I should play on what I like the most. I could get better and the shots would still be 'ugh' for me.

No prob but I am not having problems and I am just average in video games....your opinion.....keep footballin'

 

[Jore2]

Yea, and that's precisely what I mean. Shots go all to easy on the goalie or just a BIT over the bar or just a BIT beside the post. Never too far away, that's unreal. Try shooting from long range and tell me, does it ever go a decent shot? because 19 out of 20 for me go weak and directly to the GK.

I have had plenty of shoots a lot outside. Maybe you are just using that shooting assistance. I'm not using any of those assistances.

And about simulation and having fun. I have fun when it's close to reality. I don't have so much(at least not for so long time) fun when it's arcade(like PES demo). Sure it might be fun for casual gaming, but that's just very rare gaming, not so often as good simulation "sucks you in".

The whole point was, if guy(writer) is writing review about football game he shouldn't imho bash game if it's being realistic. At least he should then show that "I understand it's closer to reality, but I would like more arcadish playing". If you are bashing football(or whatever game) because of reality you shouldn't make it like it's bad thing at least not without pointing clearly it's simulation and you don't like so much simulation.

I haven't seen any1 giving too much justification if some1 would bash Forza Motorsport about too realistic, etc.

 

[Sinspaw]

Well, I'm somewhat bashing the game and it's definitely not because it's realistic. Not for me anyways. Well I do agree, the pace in PES 2008 is faster than it should be, I still have more fun playing with it, and I'm still hoping that it slows down on the final build although I doubt it. I'm still going to get it though, because even if overfast paced, it still has the more realistic shots, passes, and plays. Again, that is to me.

All I'm saying is, don't bash the writer for not liking the game, because I don't like it very much either and it's not because it's 'too realistic'.

 

[Jore2]

All I'm saying is, don't bash the writer for not liking the game, because I don't like it very much either and it's not because it's 'too realistic'.

Well I don't bash in that way. I'm just pointing out that if you are blaming football game because "game is more of middfield playing and it's slow paced" imho that's just absurd. If he would have something other complains about gameplay, then it would have been make much more sense.

And I think you are really playing with all assits on, if your shots are so clinical etc.

And it's ok not to like the game, but saying that "this writer is 100% right and you all who like the game are wrong" is just absurd. It's just one writer who obviously don't know too much about football it seems.

And I didn't say I wouldn't have fun with PES either. Just that it isn't really too realistic and it have been going to wrong direction last couple of years, while FIFA is going right way, imho.

 

[Sinspaw]

I never said FIFA was bad because of the slow pace and the midfield gaming. I actually like the pace on FIFA, more than on PES. I just don't like gameplay in general. Passes feel weird, whatever the settings crosses feel like you can't control them, I've talked about shooting and what's more, I hate that I simply can't see differences on players. (Note that I tried every settings on shooting and passing etc. ) I shoot with a defender it seems the same as Henry or Messi. I start running ahead of the defender with Henry and the guy catches me no problem. I feel it's a lot nicer than before, but it's not good enough for me. And yea the writer isn't really a big expert, but still, I agree with the lack of gameplay stability.