It is not a question of gameplay. No doubt that PES has a benchmark gameplay and that this is the very thing it drives the sales and fan base. However, one starts asking a question, is this gameplay (and it's slight improvements) enough to drive the sales and fan base for years and years to come. Especially for long term fans of the series. You know, after a while I can't help but feel like a beta tester for Konami's gameplay (including A.I.) which gets improved each year with same old gameplay modes since they publish 3 versions of the same game each year (or used to) i.e. WE7, PES3, WE7I...
It was suffiicient when there was no contest from EA for example, but now with Fifa lifting it's game, Konami needs to do the same. Gamers are expecting this more than ever. They expect some big improvements like those from PES2 to PES3 when 80% of animations were redone etc...
Konami needs to improve their ML, game modes, add some fun things like challenges, 360 degree movement, better online modes and better support for online games... They have sufficient fan base and resources to organise official tournaments etc... but they are not doing anything... Konami should "bank" on some exclusive and unique attributes, and I can't help but think that PES6 was a missed opportunity... Konami had a PES management game for example and if they could build this (and expand it a bit) into "normal" PES, it would be an incredible improvement. They showed they can do it, it is beyond me why not utilise on it.
So PES to me is an awesome multiplayer game, but started to be a bit stale in single player department. And this is exactly where they get beaten by EA every year.
PES2008 does promise a lot of new things, revamped master league, stadium editor etc... so things look bright. I can't wait to get my hands on it.
Having said that, I still stand to my claim that EA has shown much more improvement than Konami and if EA continue improving at this rate, Konami has something serious to worry about.
Agree with you mate....I didnt get my hands on the PES management game so i dont know what potential it had and how deep/realistic/well presented the manager mode (ML) could have been in PES6. But it looks like Konami are on the right track too (to an extent) with the kinds of improvments promised in the ML for PES2008
I agree that Konami have been too lazy, especially in the audio and presentation department (FIFA 2003 had the best atmosphere in a footie game till date imo )....Licensing is a different issue cos EA holds most of the rights and some of them are exclusive (Premiership) so Konami cant do much about certain aspects of it.
The main question is that "Is great gameplay enough to enjoy a football game ?"...the answer varies from person to person so it depends on individual taste and expectations/experience
Its refreshing to see EA closing the gap on Konami and in the end, its the customer who is the happiest cos he has 2 potentially awesome games to choose from.
Lets hope EA and Konami continue to fight it out