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EURO2008Q: Romania vs. Bulgaria [P/R]

theo

VII
Players make mistakes, you just don't know if Ogararu wouldn't have made that mistake. And for example, if it wasn't for Piturca I bet Daniel Niculae and Ovidiu Petre (or some other dm) would have been starters, and I bet that the score wouldn't have been 2-0 for us.
Players aren't muppets, if you're their coach it doesn't mean you can control their nerves, composure or power to make decisions.
 

adialex

Reserve Team
this isn't the first time we concede late goals and in this manner, I really think we need a foreing coach to change our mentality..look what Otto Rehagel did with Greece..
 

Silencer

Superstar
What the hell happened here guys :o How can you give away a game when you are 2-0 ahead in your own venue??? :o
Piturca shot himself in the foot with not inviting Ogararu that's for sure :boohoo:
We played like crap today as well against Luxembourg, only 1-0 victory but at least it's a victory but they are a bunch of amateurs so that's no wonder.
Big surprise is also Belarus who played 2-2 vs Albania omg :|
We play against them on wednesday (homegame)
Romania should be able to beat Albania easy come on guys this was only the first game and you learn from your mistakes right heads up and onwards to the next game.
 

thetrooper37

Senior Squad
$teauA said:
No your team didn't realize s*it, we just allowed you to take control of the ball because we saw ourselves up 2-0 and we said "hell yeah this is the highlife baby, we can relax now we're up 2-0, we're winners bitch (H)" :nape:

Mutu was terrible today. Lobont is a piece of s*it GK and where the f*ck was Contra on the first goal??
What are you kidding? True, you guys sat back BUT, our team started using the wings and forgot about punting the ball uselesly upfield which was the whole first half. They actually started trying to make a purposeful attack, not just kicking the ball to your keeper. Yes you guys sat back, but had we continued with the same play from the first half, the score would have still been 2-0
 

$teauA

Superstar
Theo said:
First Piturca should learn them that a match has 90 minutes. Then learn them about injury time.

Edit: adialex, we don't need no new coach, stay calm and act mature ffs!

I agree, this isn't Dinamo it's the damn NT there needs to be consistency at the coaching position in order to achiever results. Piturca is a good coach (look at the campaign he had with Romania to qualify us to EURO 2000) but he needs to teach the players how to stay focused for 90 minutes.
 

4ndr3i

SG's van Bommel
Bulgaria was soooooo lucky :boohoo: Romania controled the game but they made foolish mistakes :rolleyes: .. i still think and hope that Romania and Holand will go to Euro 2008 .. Bulgaria doesn't have the power
 

$teauA

Superstar
thetrooper37 said:
What are you kidding? True, you guys sat back BUT, our team started using the wings and forgot about punting the ball uselesly upfield which was the whole first half. They actually started trying to make a purposeful attack, not just kicking the ball to your keeper. Yes you guys sat back, but had we continued with the same play from the first half, the score would have still been 2-0

The reason why you were able to connect a few balls together is because when we sat back we stopped pressing in midfield which is the tactic that we used up to the second goal. We pressed ur defense and midfield continuously and you had no choice but to pass it back to ur keeper or punt it forwards, when we stopped pressing you had more freedom to pass the ball.
 

theo

VII
Any team in the world would play good if you let them do their game, that's not a good argument thetrooper.
 

thetrooper37

Senior Squad
Theo said:
Any team in the world would play good if you let them do their game, that's not a good argument thetrooper.

so you're saying that we dind't let you play your game? Your argument is no good either. Just as usual, Bulgaria starts off sleeping and then realizes "Hey, we're losing, how about we try". Our players were sitting back and watching for most of the game and that isn't because Romania is all that great.
 

thetrooper37

Senior Squad
Theo said:
No, I'm saying our players let you do what you want in the last minutes.

yes, and we let you do what you want for most of the game. Our pathetic playing was due to coaching errors and not your greatness.
 

theo

VII
Sorry that we had 65% possesion, it's not because of our greatness, it's just that your team :drevil: didn't start using the wings :drevil:. Thanks for the two own-goals, we would have been doomed without them. Can't believe our team didn't do nothing, change the coach, Bulgaria is too awesome for us! omfgzz!!!111 LOLZAR!
I just won't continue this :|.


You still can't agree that Bulgaria is average as a team even though they have some pretty good players. Looking at your record against us wouldn't do bad you know.
 

thetrooper37

Senior Squad
Theo said:
Sorry that we had 65% possesion, it's not because of our greatness, it's just that your team :drevil: didn't start using the wings :drevil:. Thanks for the two own-goals, we would have been doomed without them. Can't believe our team didn't do nothing, change the coach, Bulgaria is too awesome for us! omfgzz!!!111 LOLZAR!
I just won't continue this :|.


You still can't agree that Bulgaria is average as a team even though they have some pretty good players. Looking at your record against us wouldn't do bad you know.

:nape: Your lame remarks do nothing for a civilized discussion. Yes Romania definitely have a much better chance of qualifying and that was shown with this game. You also have to realize that our team really sucks because of our coach. For god's sake, he started attending some piece of **** physical education school in Bulgaria in order to get some education on how to manage the team :boohoo: If you have actually watched some of the Bulgarian players play in their clubs, you'd know what they are capable of. Stilian Petrov played as a DM the whole game...that';s not even his position. He was pretty much useless throughout. I don't think Martin Petrov made a single run down the wing during the first half and that is where his strength is, getting past players and crossing. Berbatov was made useless as well because all those punts up the field were not anywhere near him. wtf is he supposed to do, teleport to them? Had there been crosses from the sides, he would have had the chances to put headers towards the net. Romania played its triangle passes for most of the game and simply hid the ball from us. What did we do? We punted upfield and couldn't land 2 passes together. THAT is definitely a coaching tactic. You actually think the players said "**** it, we don't need to listen to the coach, just boot it upfield to Berbatov, hopefully he'll get a goal"? No, the coach gave those orders and the players have to follow.

I even said at the beginning, both teams have the talent but our coach is an idiot. For you to disagree is simply stupid.

and btw, it was 59% not 65... still a lot but you're exaterating.
 

theo

VII
At least you're happy with the result. And Stoicikov is zero as a coach, luckly his assistant manager could save the game (if he was the one who talked to the players).
 

Tom

That Nice Guy
you're blaming the complete ****ness of your performance on your coach? Just because he's crap it doesnt make up for 90 minutes on the pitch. A coach can only do so much, teams still win when their manager has upped and left a day before the match, it happens all the time.

Football isnt as tactical a game as some people like to make out, to levy all your "wings" abuse at the coach is blatantly unfair. Sure he might stink as much as horse ****, but after playing for 10mins the players cant see that, then they're either STUPIDLY obedient, or just plain dumb.

Or, more likely, Romania realised you wanted to play down the wings, pressured you, and made you punt the ball upfield to the increasingly stranded Berbatov, in the hope he'd do something. The coach cant be held 100% responsible for everything that happens on the football pitch, especially when the opposing team knows exactly how you're trying to attack.

Just be happy with a draw if you ask me.
 

thetrooper37

Senior Squad
I believe that during the World cup qualifiers, there was a game where Stilian Petrov had a fit at the coach, basically disagreeing with his tactics. What happened? Stoitchkov didn't let him play :ewan: . And you're right, it doesn't make up for 90 minutes, that's why we scored 2 goals and Romania stumbled. I am happy with the draw, Romania played better and they'll end up qualifying but you all seem to think that they're all that great. They really weren't more than average, it's just that we sucked really bad.
 


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