EU Passport

[Hyun]

how long does a player need to play in belgium to receive a passport for england? 4 years is my guess, but i could use a confirmation. thanks in advance.

 

[-KocH-]

what about in portugal?
'cause I sent pablo vitti to play for sporting cp on loan...

 

[PaPaGeorGeo]

how long does a player need to play in belgium to receive a passport for england? 4 years is my guess, but i could use a confirmation. thanks in advance.

Work permits depends on the national team mostly, i think its like they have to play 75% of games from the last 12 months to qualify for one and or have high potential ability.

If they stayed in Belgium for 5 years they can get Belgium as a second nationality and therefore wont need a work permit

 

[-KocH-]

5 years?? omg....

 

[houston3721]

Dong Fang-zhuo of Man United already had Belgian as his second nationality.
But I dont think United bought him so long ago... really 5 years?

 

[Tom]

This is "similar" to what are asking, posted by Ruud:

Here's a list of nations and the time in years it takes for a player to gain it's nationality when playing there.
Unmentioned countries have a default setting of 5 years.

Australia 4
Belgium 7
Bosnia 2
Brazil 15
China 8
Chinese Taipei 7
Denmark 7
FYR Macedonia 2
Hong Kong 7
Lebanon 3
Macau 7
Mexico 4
Norway 7
Poland 3
Russia 12
Serbia & Montenegro 2
Singapore 4
South Korea 100
Spain 4
Sweden 3
Thailand 4

 

[Fernandez]

The best option is to get a feeder club.

 

[cus]

This is "similar" to what are asking, posted by Ruud:

Here's a list of nations and the time in years it takes for a player to gain it's nationality when playing there.
Unmentioned countries have a default setting of 5 years.

Australia 4
Belgium 7
Bosnia 2
Brazil 15
China 8
Chinese Taipei 7
Denmark 7
FYR Macedonia 2
Hong Kong 7
Lebanon 3
Macau 7
Mexico 4
Norway 7
Poland 3
Russia 12
Serbia & Montenegro 2
Singapore 4
South Korea 100
Spain 4
Sweden 3
Thailand 4

 

[rpvankasteren]

Not a typo. Those are the figures for FM05, can't confirm them on 07 yet.

 

[PaPaGeorGeo]

Dong Fang-zhuo of Man United already had Belgian as his second nationality.
But I dont think United bought him so long ago... really 5 years?

Its 5 years or he may be able to get work permit after playing a certain % of games for his country in the last year, but im not 100% sure. If someone more informed could back clear this up

 

[Aarfy Aardvark]

This is "similar" to what are asking, posted by Ruud:

So I take it, its best to get a polish feeder club, as this will take minimal time for them to get naturalised into a EU citizen.

Oh and Japan and South Korea have really daft naturalisation laws. You can't become a dual national after 22 years of age. Its either one of the other. Same with Ukraine. I think the problem is, this little caveat is quite detrimental to the game and you can't really reflect it whilst playing. Hence the need for a 100 years of solitude (to quote the name of the novel by Garbriel Garcia Marquez)

However I think if a Korean or Japanese player played in England, rather then the other way around - they would be able to have dual-nationality on the basis of the laws in that country. I also believe Spain revoked the law only recently which has helped their league and national team a lot.

Also, can someone tell me if Bulgarian and Romanian players are classed as EU after Jan 2007?

 

[Aarfy Aardvark]

5 years?? omg....

I supposed you could always shag a home secretary. I'm not sure if this option is including within the game however.

 

[cus]

I just loaned Julio Ricardo Cruz on Deportivo La Coruna and he immediately got Spanish Passport, after playing 4 matches.. weird

 

[houston3721]

So I take it, its best to get a polish feeder club, as this will take minimal time for them to get naturalised into a EU citizen.

Oh and Japan and South Korea have really daft naturalisation laws. You can't become a dual national after 22 years of age. Its either one of the other. Same with Ukraine. I think the problem is, this little caveat is quite detrimental to the game and you can't really reflect it whilst playing. Hence the need for a 100 years of solitude (to quote the name of the novel by Garbriel Garcia Marquez)

However I think if a Korean or Japanese player played in England, rather then the other way around - they would be able to have dual-nationality on the basis of the laws in that country. I also believe Spain revoked the law only recently which has helped their league and national team a lot.

Also, can someone tell me if Bulgarian and Romanian players are classed as EU after Jan 2007?

In real life, China dont let Dong Fangzhuo to have a second nationality, he has to give up his nationality "Chinese" if he wants the Belgium one.
But in the game, Dong already had Belgium as his 2nd nationality.

 

[Fernandez]

I just loaned Julio Ricardo Cruz on Deportivo La Coruna and he immediately got Spanish Passport, after playing 4 matches.. weird

Might be a bug, or he already spent 4 years in Spain.

 

[yoyo913]

dude you're 2 post away from 10000

 

[cus]

Might be a bug, or he already spent 4 years in Spain.

I dont know. he never played in spain during his carreer.

 

[Aarfy Aardvark]

In real life, China dont let Dong Fangzhuo to have a second nationality, he has to give up his nationality "Chinese" if he wants the Belgium one.
But in the game, Dong already had Belgium as his 2nd nationality.

I'm pretty sure the law in Belgium would allow it, but in China not so...

You can live as a dual national of China and Belgium in the EU, but not as an EU/Chinese dual national in China itself.

Technically speaking, I could become a Japanese dual-national, as Great Britain does not not have a law that recognises the right of renunciation to a foreign country. Basically in British eyes, you can never stop becoming British if you were once a national of that country. I could live on two passports in the UK, but only one in Japan.

And its actually 5 years of residency plus a minimum age of 20, to become a Japanese national iirc.But the process of actually getting citizenship, makes America's search for Al-Qaeda look peacefully justified however...

 

[Sanderholm]

Here's a list of nations and the time in years it takes for a player to gain it's nationality when playing there.
Unmentioned countries have a default setting of 5 years.

Australia 4
Belgium 7
Bosnia 2
Brazil 15
China 8
Chinese Taipei 7
Denmark 7
FYR Macedonia 2
Hong Kong 7
Lebanon 3
Macau 7
Mexico 4
Norway 7
Poland 3
Russia 12
Serbia & Montenegro 2
Singapore 4
South Korea 100
Spain 4
Sweden 3
Thailand 4

Does this mean it takes a player 12 years to get a Russian citiezenship?

 

[Seán D]

how long is Portugal? ill be pissed if its 5 years.