Did England really create soccer??, read this

Crespo_Vieri

Youth Team
Rome is where the art is
Friday, 13 December 2002
It may come as a shock to English people who have long held the view that they invented football, but really it comes from Italy. In a new volume of the Encyclopedia Treccani an entry heralded by Corriere della Sera as "a rather bold bit of historical revisionism" claims that Roman legionaries were playing the game over a thousand years before the English claimed to have invented it. The encyclopaedia claims that Roman soldiers adapted a Greek game, 'harpastum', which involved throwing or kicking a ball between two opposing teams in order to get it over the other side's goalline. The game was played with a ball composed of "vegetable matter" moulded and bound together with "the soft and gentle hair of young maidens". However, when maidens' hair was harder to come by, legionaries in first century BC England would often settle for "the skulls of slaughtered Britons". When they finally tired of the awful weather, warm beer and boiled food and returned to Italy, the Romans left football behind allowing Britons to develop the game. Meanwhile, the Romans' final full game was a heavy home defeat in a European tie against Alaric's German Visigoths in 410AD, after which they concentrated on developing medicine, art and dangerously unpredictable driving skills.

the link is http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=1024/newsId=45847.html
 

?uestlove

Youth Team
i think the english are credited with making football into what it has become today. there has been lots of variations of the game thousands of years ago, but the english made football into the more recognizeable version of today. this happened in the 1800's or so.
 

bertkamp16

Senior Squad
Originally posted by ?uestlove
i think the english are credited with making football into what it has become today. there has been lots of variations of the game thousands of years ago, but the english made football into the more recognizeable version of today. this happened in the 1800's or so.

Just what I was going to say, ?uestlove. England are credited for laying down the first official rules for modern football.
 

Yj

Senior Squad
yea i believe it's China too. Imagine Chinese genrals playing footy in their armour... :o

Anw there's no end to such debates...
 

Ruben Sosa

El Jovato
yeah, I read somewhere that it was the chinese that invented it aswell.

But anyway, who cares who gave birth to football, we all know South Americans raised it :p
 
the english created the game as it is today (pretty much) and started officially playing it, official comps, first pro league etc...
 

The Drovers Dog

Reserve Team
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yeah, whats wrong with booting a few cracked skulls around a Battlefield, after all there wasn't any or Adidas or Nike balls around at that time...
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About the the origins of the 'invention' of the game, my own thoughts are that it was an instinctive thing to do in any age or era, as a passtime or as a cruel habit on the Battlefields of History.
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Ok, here is an exerpt from one of my collection of Football Books that i read from time to time. --

Order is Established.

The first stab at a set of definitive rules is believed to been initiated in 1848 by a pair of enthusiastic Cambridge house masters.

-- However pursuading rival schools to drop many of there long running traditions as in 'hacking\scything down from behind, tripping. elbowing and smashing the goalkeeper to pieces at every opportunity', and it was this type of onfield conduct that caused deep divisions amongst the Cambridge Committee, and after much discussion they decided to obolish it and adopt uniform rules.

--Although at first the new rules did prove to be problematic within the ranks of the hackers who still regarded the open game as manly "Quintessentially" English.

--The reason was that every College and Major public school had there own interpretations about how the game should be played

--Two further attempts in the 1830's also met with little success.

--It was not untill 1863 that the celebrated Cambridge Rules were drawn up and accepted by all the major schools (Bar Blackheath).

-- At last eager pupils who enjoyed the game could now go out and form their own teams with unanimous regulations in mind. Although this initial set of rules was never made law at that time, they did form the basis of the F A's ground rules 1863, that have been ammended over the years and now are the Corner Stone of the World Game.

--Today how ever, there is no surviving copy of the Cambridge Rules and historians can only make rough guesses at what those first regulations allowed and forbade. --

--Just days after the rules were laid down, it was decided to set up a Football Association to administer the game, and in those few days the whole of the modern day game was made possible.
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The divisions between the then New FA and the old guard was the reason that Rugby Union was formed as a breakaway Football Code ---

--One Cambridge chancellor later famously commented. --

--"Football is a gentlemans game played by ruffians, and Rugby is a ruffians game played by gentlemen."
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Hans

How big is YOUR penis?
The game was invented in many places long time ago. The Chinese use it to train their soldier and to cast away boredom in their camps, same thing with the Romans. Even the ancient Mayan played it for religious ceremony ( this probably explains why football is like a religion in south america :) ). But, the English are the first one to make the rules, the association which help to develop the game as it is today, a beautiful game.

( PS : AND THAT SOCCERSUCKS GUY CAN KISS MY ASS !!!!! )
 

TOON ARMY

Starting XI
Re: Did England really create soccer??, read this

Originally posted by Crespo_Vieri
Rome is where the art is
Friday, 13 December 2002
It may come as a shock to English people who have long held the view that they invented football, but really it comes from Italy. In a new volume of the Encyclopedia Treccani an entry heralded by Corriere della Sera as "a rather bold bit of historical revisionism" claims that Roman legionaries were playing the game over a thousand years before the English claimed to have invented it. The encyclopaedia claims that Roman soldiers adapted a Greek game, 'harpastum', which involved throwing or kicking a ball between two opposing teams in order to get it over the other side's goalline. The game was played with a ball composed of "vegetable matter" moulded and bound together with "the soft and gentle hair of young maidens". However, when maidens' hair was harder to come by, legionaries in first century BC England would often settle for "the skulls of slaughtered Britons". When they finally tired of the awful weather, warm beer and boiled food and returned to Italy, the Romans left football behind allowing Britons to develop the game. Meanwhile, the Romans' final full game was a heavy home defeat in a European tie against Alaric's German Visigoths in 410AD, after which they concentrated on developing medicine, art and dangerously unpredictable driving skills.

the link is http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=1024/newsId=45847.html

What the feck is up with you, your always trying to attack English football!
 

Internazionale

Elo Ratings
Re: Re: Did England really create soccer??, read this

Originally posted by TOON ARMY
What the feck is up with you, your always trying to attack English football!

No, he's not. He's giving the link that explains the argument of originality art football. If you wanna blame someone, blame UEFA.com magazine that published it.
 

night

Starting XI
Re: Re: Did England really create soccer??, read this

Originally posted by TOON ARMY
What the feck is up with you, your always trying to attack English football!
i was exactly thinking the same thing
Chinese Created football.. not Italians
 

Savo

Grobar
Re: Re: Re: Did England really create soccer??, read this

Originally posted by Sheringham10
i was exactly thinking the same thing
Chinese Created football.. not Italians

china :| ... wtf :o :) :D
 
I once read an interesting article that suggested that the Inuit were actually the first to play a soccer type game! The ball was made from an inflated walrus bladder and the playing field was the land between settlements who played against each other, this meant that sometimes the nets were miles apart! :o

well, I think it's interesting, anyway..
 

Han

Senior Squad
Yes, right, it came from China and the very first football team's name was Chu Tsu (or was it Tsu Chu?? LOL)
 

Crespo_Vieri

Youth Team
if u actually read it, u'll see that it says Romans (Italians) created soccer, how is this attacking English football?? I found this interesting as I always thought English created football but reallly Italy did ;D
 


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