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Demo Impressions

victorelessar

Reserve Team
bah i see some people complainning about the most ridiculous things.

passing is great, shooting is great

i agree with the guy who said players seems to be heavy, kinda slower than ever, but no big deal.
i like the new tackle system, but its a shame when you call a second player to mark. all he does is watch. he doesnt tackle unless very close to your area. but hey, theres an option to make the marking as it is in fifa11 so you play as you like.
fifa12 is indeed the best football game ever made, but its so different from fifa11, that ppl (like me at first), may missunderstand the different gameplay for a bad one ;)
keep and open mind and play a lot of games. you will trespass this barrier and be happy

p.s.: nevermind my english mistakes, i typed very fast and didnt bother to check ;) hehe
 

Keegan

Yardie
I am quite enjoying the demo so far... completed the defending tutorials and having a player cover the man on the ball while you control someone else is pretty nice... you can cover a potential pass while preventing the player with the ball from going to your goal. Played a game as Barcelona and a Daniel Alves overlap and the resulting through ball and cutback to Messi (you know the rest) was a thing of beauty. It does feel a little heavy but this is a demo afterall. Some of these faces are really good - De Jong, for example - I'm sure I saw his goatee move in the wind. I'm really looking forward to the full game. (Prefer it to PES 2012 which isn't bad). My 2¢. :D
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
Keegan;3109278 said:
I am quite enjoying the demo so far... completed the defending tutorials and having a player cover the man on the ball while you control someone else is pretty nice... you can cover a potential pass while preventing the player with the ball from going to your goal. Played a game as Barcelona and a Daniel Alves overlap and the resulting through ball and cutback to Messi (you know the rest) was a thing of beauty. It does feel a little heavy but this is a demo afterall. Some of these faces are really good - De Jong, for example - I'm sure I saw his goatee move in the wind. I'm really looking forward to the full game. (Prefer it to PES 2012 which isn't bad). My 2¢. :D

i might eventually make some edits & lift that heaviness for players.
i have a complete list of parameters related to ai & know exactly which parameters will fix that.
 

huantong

Club Supporter
regularcat;3109324 said:
i might eventually make some edits & lift that heaviness for players.
i have a complete list of parameters related to ai & know exactly which parameters will fix that.

make AI file please!
 

ManUtdFan20

Starting XI
So far the game is awesome, But i am playing on keyboard so the expeirence isn't as easy to play as it is with the controller, But the game just seems way better then previoues FIFA title.

And all the "Over the top" impact engine vids aren't actually what it is like when playing the game, those things happen maybe once in 30+ games.

FIFA 12 is way better then PES 2012
 

Diego_10

Club Supporter
I think that gameplay is very slow, even on "fast" settings, sometimes it's hard to make a good pass, because the ball moves very slow too! I hope EA fix this and make gameplay a little bit faster.

Also I'm having a hard time trying to win the ball, I'm playing on "Legendary" and I guess it's just a matter of time to get used to it.

I think I'm not doing so bad, I've lost more games than I have won, bust jut by 1 o 2 goals
 

smf_fede

Youth Team
The game looks great in graphics, that's a big one for EA.

But...don't like gameplay, as others said before, players looks heavy and the game looks much slower than last year, the defense is better placed but it is very static, they just sit and look at u passing the ball.
If these aspects are not improved, dribbles would be the key on this game, above the tactical game and building plays.

On the other hand, CPU's offensive now looks good, passing making tricks, looking for spaces, still needed improvements but definitely it's a huge change regarding last year.
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
ive officially come to the conclusion that tactical defending is garbage.
the cpu defends tactically & the human defense just ball watches.

im gonna have to edit this tactical defending ****, truly useless.
 

Diego_10

Club Supporter
regularcat;3109738 said:
ive officially come to the conclusion that tactical defending is garbage...

Agreed, when you play against Barcelona, it's almost impossible to take the ball away from Messi or Alexis Sánches, I mean, they ALLWAYS do the same trick or movement, but it's very difficult to chase them, it's like the defenders MUST be feinted on 90% of the time. And if you switch to "legacy defending" the defender just chase them and never tackle

Hope the gameplay be more fluid on the final product, because to be honest, I like FIFA 11 gameplay better.
 

victorelessar

Reserve Team
well i realised that what i was feeling the players heavy, was actuaslly the option of running with the "R" trigger from controller with analogic on. it takes a few seconds for player to run fastest he can, with this opption on.
if u turn analog trigger off, players run faster as soon as u press it, so i take it back what i said about heavy players. its also easier to defend like this

the tackle thing i belive is a matter of getting used to it. and i guess theres no need to edit its physics, since u can turn on the option that makes the defending just like it is in fifa 11
 

Diego_10

Club Supporter
victorelessar;3109748 said:
the tackle thing i belive is a matter of getting used to it. and i guess theres no need to edit its physics, since u can turn on the option that makes the defending just like it is in fifa 11

Well, yes, it's a matter of getting used to, but if you defend like FIFA 11, player almost don't tackle, its somehow frustating.

Also, I don't know if it's me, but I see that the CPU players, position way better then yours, weather it is deffending or attacking, and they cut passes way to easy.
 

info0

Youth Team
I might add to what I wrote above, I hate AI doing skill moves.

Sorry, but if someone calls FIFA a simulator I will laugh my ass off, hard.

I can't see Messi doing deliberate skill moves in real life, yet in FIFA he already done chops, roulettes, flip-flaps against me (DOH!! EA is he STILL A 5* skills USER?! WTF?!?!), the same goes about Iniesta doing chops, Villa doing Berba-spin, Xavi doing roulette.

Hello?! I know you wanted to make the game more fun, but this, is pure crap. It's not real. It's arcade stuff.

Plus EA you added precision dribbling when you added tactical defense to same game. Hmm, you know what? Hit the wall hard with your heads. I can see skill dribble, precision dribble and skill moves being OVERUSED online this year. Thus why I believe 99% of people will still use Legacy Defending (aka FIFA 11 and prior defending) instead of your new stuff.

Oh yeh, I use Legacy Defending too. It's much better and what I got used to over the fecking 6 years. Why change it now? Is it due to PES 2011 having similar system already?

The new Player Impact Engine definitely looks great on paper, but in game, it works paritally so far. Seen more bugs and glitches in this demo then on any other before! I hope full game is ironed out. I really do! I have pre-ordered it and don't want to return it asap as I get it delivered :(.
 

victorelessar

Reserve Team
another round of games and idk but im very disapointed rly. i agree with people above. cpu players do position and tackle much better. its frustrating indeed. our players look so dumb defending.
and about the passing? does cpu miss any pass? i still havent seen...
about the skill moves, i havent seen cpu players doing many skills to be honest. all it does is passing like a freaking robot, never missing any pass. but i do think that this amount of importance that EA givesto skill moves is just a load of crap. we hardly see anyone doing what robinho does (i have no idea what to call it in english, but in brazil we call pedalada)... i belive fifa would be perfectly fine with like 10% the amount of skill they have now.
back to the passing and marking, i dont know about u guys, but i have played only in legendary, and our players hardly move, the actually hide behindthe cpu marking, its almost impossible to pass (speacially myself, who likes to play with all manual controller). while the cpu team, the second they steal the ball, there are like 5 players already running to the goal and giving passing options.

ill go now for another round of games and be back soon with more impressions :D
 

Chuny

Chairman
Staff member
Administrator
Super Moderator
info0;3109830 said:
I might add to what I wrote above, I hate AI doing skill moves.

Sorry, but if someone calls FIFA a simulator I will laugh my ass off, hard.

I can't see Messi doing deliberate skill moves in real life, yet in FIFA he already done chops, roulettes, flip-flaps against me (DOH!! EA is he STILL A 5* skills USER?! WTF?!?!), the same goes about Iniesta doing chops, Villa doing Berba-spin, Xavi doing roulette.

Hello?! I know you wanted to make the game more fun, but this, is pure crap. It's not real. It's arcade stuff.

Plus EA you added precision dribbling when you added tactical defense to same game. Hmm, you know what? Hit the wall hard with your heads. I can see skill dribble, precision dribble and skill moves being OVERUSED online this year. Thus why I believe 99% of people will still use Legacy Defending (aka FIFA 11 and prior defending) instead of your new stuff.

Oh yeh, I use Legacy Defending too. It's much better and what I got used to over the fecking 6 years. Why change it now? Is it due to PES 2011 having similar system already?

The new Player Impact Engine definitely looks great on paper, but in game, it works paritally so far. Seen more bugs and glitches in this demo then on any other before! I hope full game is ironed out. I really do! I have pre-ordered it and don't want to return it asap as I get it delivered :(.

Laugh all you want but FIFA IS a simulator. And it's the best one out there.
Simulator doesn't necessarily means 100% real, but hey it's as real as it gets. You want something 'realer' then go out there and play it yourself.
 

Cardiff

Youth Team
I got to agree, passing has become much harder. My style is a lot of short (ground) passes all over the pitch and it worked great in Fifa 11 but now the ball is moving slow or it doesn't get kicked with enough force - yet the computer makes perfect passes almost 95% of the time he attempts it.


Still, the career mode looks amazing. Fifa 11 had a very basic one.
 

smf_fede

Youth Team
regularcat;3109738 said:
ive officially come to the conclusion that tactical defending is garbage.
the cpu defends tactically & the human defense just ball watches.

im gonna have to edit this tactical defending ****, truly useless.

Can't be more agree mate, right now i'm using legendary mode on defending, just like on fifa11, it's not so effective as last year (the radio of interception is smaller) but i least i can defend way better, tactical defending is useless.

victorelessar;3109877 said:
i dont know about u guys, but i have played only in legendary, and our players hardly move, the actually hide behindthe cpu marking, its almost impossible to pass (speacially myself, who likes to play with all manual controller). while the cpu team, the second they steal the ball, there are like 5 players already running to the goal and giving passing options.

I feel the same thing mate, i'm an offensive player and i use possession style, but players don't get involved on offensive, they're just placed over a spot and waiting for some action, can't build an efective passing gameplay, and to make things worse, offensive players are slower, i mean, A. Sanchez, Aguero, Tevez, can't beat defenders, we need badly a huge change on gameplay or this will be a boring year playing fifa.
 


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