Cant wait for PES6!

[Nack]

After just trying the full version of FIFA 07 it's just made me appreciate PES so much more!

If your going to buy FIFA 07 don't! Even if your a little curious, as i've just made that mistake.

Apart from the commentary, there is nothing that resembles football at all!

So even if there isn't a demo, I don't care as this is video footballs only saving grace!

Bring it on!

 

[redman]

Word! Dont buy fifa if you like realistic gameplay. But if you want 20 leagues then buy fifa.

 

[Nack]

Word! Dont buy fifa if you like realistic gameplay. But if you want 20 leagues then buy fifa.

True, the leagues are impressive but what use is that when actually playing the game leaves you feeling unemotional!

Score a goal in fifa and it's like, oh there's another scripted pile of

Score a goal in pes and you really feel it was down to your own control and skill, and do it against a mate and it's even all the more satisfying!

 

[TristanAbbott7]

Typical fanboy comments. The REAL PES gamers who have played FIFA all admit that it's a good game, not up to PES/WE standards but a definite improvement. The fact you says it's nothing like football is like saying a dog is nothign like an animal. Of course it freaking is! It might not be as realistic in many ways as PES but to say it's nothing like football is just basically saying "I'm a chavvy fanboy who wants to influence people by talking generalized crap".

If you hate FIFA then don't play it. I don't like the Final Fantasy games but I don't really care to educate the world on that fact. People can download the FIFA demo for themselves and see whether t's good or bad. Listening to a teenage chav who has posted the same comment 20 times in the last week about the game won't influence anybody to do anything. You seem to forget that we all want PES6 to be awesome and to be 20 times better than FIFA. We all just want the best game regardless of which company produces it. I hope PES6 is miles ahead of anything EA ever produce but so far that's looking unlikely.

Get over the "I hate FIFA" rant, it's neither convincing (as in I know for a fact you haven't done anything other than load the demo, it ran crappy on your PC so you played half a game then deleted it) or helpful to people who want to know what Konami have done with PES6. FIFA being good or bad doesn't reflect on whether PES6 will be good or bad. FIFA 07 could be the owrst game in existence but that doesn't help us if PES6 is poor.

 

[Nack]

Typical fanboy comments. The REAL PES gamers who have played FIFA all admit that it's a good game, not up to PES/WE standards but a definite improvement. The fact you says it's nothing like football is like saying a dog is nothign like an animal. Of course it freaking is! It might not be as realistic in many ways as PES but to say it's nothing like football is just basically saying "I'm a chavvy fanboy who wants to influence people by talking generalized crap".

If you hate FIFA then don't play it. I don't like the Final Fantasy games but I don't really care to educate the world on that fact. People can download the FIFA demo for themselves and see whether t's good or bad. Listening to a teenage chav who has posted the same comment 20 times in the last week about the game won't influence anybody to do anything. You seem to forget that we all want PES6 to be awesome and to be 20 times better than FIFA. We all just want the best game regardless of which company produces it. I hope PES6 is miles ahead of anything EA ever produce but so far that's looking unlikely.

Get over the "I hate FIFA" rant, it's neither convincing (as in I know for a fact you haven't done anything other than load the demo, it ran crappy on your PC so you played half a game then deleted it) or helpful to people who want to know what Konami have done with PES6. FIFA being good or bad doesn't reflect on whether PES6 will be good or bad. FIFA 07 could be the owrst game in existence but that doesn't help us if PES6 is poor.

Why do you believe I don't have the full game?

Why would I kick up such a fuss, if I hadn't just wasted my money?

I'm after the best football sim ever as everyone is, and I hardly think a 7900 gtx is crap.

Just go and join your new bumboys back in the FIFA forum if your so defensive of it!

 

[TristanAbbott7]

If you played the demo and hated it, you wouldn't have bought the full version. End of.

EA are notorious for producing crap demos with regard to PC specs. It runs perfectly on my laptop which has a crappy on-board graphics card yet choppy on my desktop which has a $500 graphics card in it. Saying you have a 7900 gtx means nothing in terms of how it plays on your PC.

I'm just saying that constant slagging off of FIFA won't make PES6 any better. I want improvements in PES6, not just to take satisfaction in the fact that FIFA isn't as good! What does that matter? If FIFA only had 2 licensed teams i nit but PES had 3, would that make PES a awesomely licensed game? No, of course not. You can't judge the greatness of one thing based upon the perceived crapyness of another.

If people don't get on Konami's a$$ and demand effort then they'll get lazier and lazier. The worst thing for any company id to have a totally satisfied customer base because then you know that improvements, development, etc. slows down and switches to their other products.

You seem to forget that I want PES6 to be the best soccer game ever by a mile. Based upon what WE10 was, I can't see it being much better than last years game. When Konami won't even give us a demo, that means something is up seriously. They don't know the gaming community or otherwise they'd realize we're all more likely to download the full game before buying it and then not end up paying for it if we can't get the demo first.

 

[Nack]

If you played the demo and hated it, you wouldn't have bought the full version. End of.

EA are notorious for producing crap demos with regard to PC specs. It runs perfectly on my laptop which has a crappy on-board graphics card yet choppy on my desktop which has a $500 graphics card in it. Saying you have a 7900 gtx means nothing in terms of how it plays on your PC.

I'm just saying that constant slagging off of FIFA won't make PES6 any better. I want improvements in PES6, not just to take satisfaction in the fact that FIFA isn't as good! What does that matter? If FIFA only had 2 licensed teams i nit but PES had 3, would that make PES a awesomely licensed game? No, of course not. You can't judge the greatness of one thing based upon the perceived crapyness of another.

If people don't get on Konami's a$$ and demand effort then they'll get lazier and lazier. The worst thing for any company id to have a totally satisfied customer base because then you know that improvements, development, etc. slows down and switches to their other products.

You seem to forget that I want PES6 to be the best soccer game ever by a mile. Based upon what WE10 was, I can't see it being much better than last years game. When Konami won't even give us a demo, that means something is up seriously. They don't know the gaming community or otherwise they'd realize we're all more likely to download the full game before buying it and then not end up paying for it if we can't get the demo first.

I think you're imagining that I get satisfaction out of fifa being rubbish, what are you talking about?

Have you bought Fifa 07 can I ask??

 

[cus]

Wolf is objective.. he says good to good and bad to bad.. full stop..

 

[Nuno]

Their is a "vs" forum for this banter, and that is where I'll send this thread.

 

[Nack]

Wolf is objective.. he says good to good and bad to bad.. full stop..

Stop kissing his arse!

 

[goal_machine84]

Typical fanboy comments. The REAL PES gamers who have played FIFA all admit that it's a good game, not up to PES/WE standards but a definite improvement. The fact you says it's nothing like football is like saying a dog is nothign like an animal. Of course it freaking is! It might not be as realistic in many ways as PES but to say it's nothing like football is just basically saying "I'm a chavvy fanboy who wants to influence people by talking generalized crap".

If you hate FIFA then don't play it. I don't like the Final Fantasy games but I don't really care to educate the world on that fact. People can download the FIFA demo for themselves and see whether t's good or bad. Listening to a teenage chav who has posted the same comment 20 times in the last week about the game won't influence anybody to do anything. You seem to forget that we all want PES6 to be awesome and to be 20 times better than FIFA. We all just want the best game regardless of which company produces it. I hope PES6 is miles ahead of anything EA ever produce but so far that's looking unlikely.

Get over the "I hate FIFA" rant, it's neither convincing (as in I know for a fact you haven't done anything other than load the demo, it ran crappy on your PC so you played half a game then deleted it) or helpful to people who want to know what Konami have done with PES6. FIFA being good or bad doesn't reflect on whether PES6 will be good or bad. FIFA 07 could be the owrst game in existence but that doesn't help us if PES6 is poor.

well said wolf

 

[cus]

Stop kissing his arse!

no need to.. it's written for getting some arsehole's (thats you in this case) stupid comments back on track.. seems to be an unsuccessful attempt though..

 

[Nack]

no need to.. it's written for getting some arsehole's (thats you in this case) stupid comments back on track.. seems to be an unsuccessful attempt though..

Yeah and your one for those, knob jockey!

 

[rane]

Typical fanboy comments. The REAL PES gamers who have played FIFA all admit that it's a good game, not up to PES/WE standards but a definite improvement. The fact you says it's nothing like football is like saying a dog is nothign like an animal. Of course it freaking is! It might not be as realistic in many ways as PES but to say it's nothing like football is just basically saying "I'm a chavvy fanboy who wants to influence people by talking generalized crap".

It all depends on the definition of "nothing like football". Sure, Fifa 07 has a pitch with 22 players who shoot a ball around trying to score. In that sense it IS like football. Being (what you refer to as) a REAL PES gamer myself, i've tried the full game of Fifa 07 and played more than a couple of matches in it. And IMHO the term "nothing like football" almost comes into play because of the following reasons:

- Performance issues (PC-related im sure, but im on a high-end system with quality hardware - and the fact that EA cant even make a game playable on many systems without the user having to adjust files himself....makes it unplayable for the common user thus living up to the "nothing like football" term)
- Lack of realism (having a high-end graphics card and a powerful computer overall, the graphics are simply disappointing to me. Also the gameplay-related things lack realism, it simply just looks wrong playing the game IMO)

I prefer playing the pre-2004 versions of Fifa and im disappointed that here in 2006, EA continues to screw up elementary things in their games. Just the fact that many people get the DirectX9 is not installed error when trying to install......amateurs!

If you hate FIFA then don't play it. I don't like the Final Fantasy games but I don't really care to educate the world on that fact. People can download the FIFA demo for themselves and see whether t's good or bad. Listening to a teenage chav who has posted the same comment 20 times in the last week about the game won't influence anybody to do anything. You seem to forget that we all want PES6 to be awesome and to be 20 times better than FIFA. We all just want the best game regardless of which company produces it. I hope PES6 is miles ahead of anything EA ever produce but so far that's looking unlikely.

I mostly agree. Demos rarely represent the full gameplay/graphics so if a demo is bad, chances are still that the full game will be better.

Get over the "I hate FIFA" rant, it's neither convincing (as in I know for a fact you haven't done anything other than load the demo, it ran crappy on your PC so you played half a game then deleted it) or helpful to people who want to know what Konami have done with PES6. FIFA being good or bad doesn't reflect on whether PES6 will be good or bad. FIFA 07 could be the owrst game in existence but that doesn't help us if PES6 is poor.

I can actually understand the ranting from time to time. EA has been in the sports-business many years and previously made good football games. BUT...they seem to rush things lately, thereby ending up releasing pretty much updates to previous years games. I could only see few gameplay-related updates from 2006 to 07 (ball physics for example). And fact is, EA screwed up the installation, they screwed up the performance requiring ppl to fiddle with file-settings - and they've focused too much on the Xbox 360 version it seems. They did/do the same with the Tiger Woods 07 release. Same gameplay, a bit better graphics, a minor updated GUI and a new packaging. Easy money it seems :/

 

[cus]

Yeah and your one for those, knob jockey!

STFU you little Yorkshire Terrier