after reading a lot of comments about how good a game pes is and iss and so on, i'm wondering if the game i just played is the same game u guys talk about. I played winning eleven 2002 on a psone emulator and the game really is not that good at all, don't be offended, just my opinion. I must say i've been playing fifa since fifa96 and apart from fifa2000, 2001 and wc that really sux, i think that there is no way that we2002 is better than fifa2002. Is pes the same as we2002 ? The only thing i do is make one-two passes and the movement of the players in we2002 is very amateuristic. Is this one of the great games you talk about, or is it, like i said in the topic, because i'm playing the wrong game and is there a real good soccer game from konami that i really should try ???