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Welcome to "Fielzão" - WC 2014 Opening Stadium

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H0US3

Senior Squad
i just wanna know why use public money for a stadium, and a corinthian's stadium.. jajajajaja
 
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tinytim

Youth Team
H0US3;2926594 said:
i just wanna know why use public money for a stadium, and a corinthian's stadium.. jajajajaja
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Public money? Where?

It's Odebrecht's money, not government's.

And why a Corinthians' stadium?

Because Brazil and specially São Paulo deserve a goddmamn new stadium, not a rehauled crap built back in the 40's.
 
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tinytim

Youth Team
luka.jerak;2926668 said:
A very impressive stadium indeed. guess there's no limit in architecture
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Corinthians also opens a new training ground at the same stadium's terrain, this September 1st.
 
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Daniel David

Youth Team
Even though I, as a sãopaulino, am still quite pissed about the Morumbi fiasco, reason leaves me no option but to find this may prove to be an adequate solution in logistical terms (assuming, of course, that it will be possible to properly finish the stadium in a bit more than three years and, as claimed, that only minor amounts of public money will be spent). Even though there is next to none hospitality infrastructure in the immediate surroundings of the site (in the faraway suburb of Itaquera), it is next to a subway station, and, crucially, access from both the Cumbica International Airport and the Presidente Dutra Highway (the major road linking São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro) should be quite easy thanks to the Jacu-Pêssego Avenue - likely avoiding major traffic jam hell that WC games in Morumbi would certainly trigger.

By the way, congratulations to the corinthianos for finally getting your stadium! (thus striking down one from the five dozens reasons we have to mock you ;-) )

Edit: Google Maps link of the site (the vast empty terrain beside the train depot): http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=...-46.472597&spn=0.027068,0.038581&z=15&layer=t
 
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tinytim

Youth Team
luka.jerak;2926723 said:
Any photos avaliable to see?
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later this week. the Training Ground opening is one of Corinthians Centennial biggest events. It was engineered following Ronaldo's recommendations.
 
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tinytim

Youth Team
Daniel David;2926726 said:
Even though I, as a sãopaulino, am still quite pissed about the Morumbi fiasco, reason leaves me no option but to find this may prove to be an adequate solution in logistical terms (assuming, of course, that it will be possible to properly finish the stadium in a bit more than three years and, as claimed, that only minor amounts of public money will be spent). Even though there is next to none hospitality infrastructure in the immediate surroundings of the site (in the faraway suburb of Itaquera), it is next to a subway station, and, crucially, access from both the Cumbica International Airport and the Presidente Dutra Highway (the major road linking São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro) should be quite easy thanks to the Jacu-Pêssego Avenue - likely avoiding major traffic jam hell that WC games in Morumbi would certainly trigger.

By the way, congratulations to the corinthianos for finally getting your stadium! (thus striking down one from the five dozens reasons we have to mock you ;-) )

Edit: Google Maps link of the site (the vast empty terrain beside the train depot): http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=...-46.472597&spn=0.027068,0.038581&z=15&layer=t
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Let's face it - saopaulinos should be the last people on earth to state ANYTHING about public money on stadiums. Period.

Just a respectful - no irony here - opinion.

It just pisses me that people raise this question so frequently since the very moment the stadium was announced, when it was clear and straight from any mouth responsible for the project that NO PUBLIC MONEY will be invested.
 
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tinytim

Youth Team
And here's the full guide for all brazilian stadiums, with Morumbi stadium yet to be swaped by Corinthians':

http://www.oportal.net/copa2014/manegarrincha05.html

In your left, under "Estádios escolhidos" (which is right under the link "Copa FIFA 2010") there's a list with all the names, their current status and how they're gonna end like.

A little below is "Outros projetos" (Other projects) showing other interesting, but not approved, braziliam stadiums for WC 2014.
 
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tinytim

Youth Team
Xifio;2926732 said:
in a time where most nouveau-design architecture is highly curvilinear, it is a bit of a change to see the planned structure hold such angular form ...
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It's actually meant to resemble a temple. It's quite plain and square, just like old greek or roman temples. The initial idea about the name would be "Temple of the Faithful Ones" (Faithful it's Corinthians' fans 'nickname', "Fielzão" something like "Big Faithful") but the naming rights will be sold to the "contractors", the Odebrecht Building Co.
 
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H0US3

Senior Squad
tinytim;2926677 said:
Public money? Where?

It's Odebrecht's money, not government's.

And why a Corinthians' stadium?

Because Brazil and specially São Paulo deserve a goddmamn new stadium, not a rehauled crap built back in the 40's.
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do you think corinthians will pay all the build?? come on..
 
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XandeAlves2000

Youth Team
Paper is one thing... let´s see if really this dream come true to Corinthians and after all, the "paulistas". Gremio´s Arena is sort of the same thing, the difference is we started early the project, in the end of 2006. Looking for the World Cup. :)

Att,
XandeAlves2000
 
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H0US3

Senior Squad
tinytim;2928077 said:
Who will? The government? It's not São Paulo FC, pal.
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of course São Paulo won't pay nothing, that JJ son of bitch don't pay even for "his" stadium... let's see... but, i think that you can agree with that our cup will use a lot of government money to build/reform stadiums...
 
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Daniel David

Youth Team
Bringing this discussion about public money spending down to the mudslinging of SPFC v Corinthians partisanship is not really useful. We are talking about real-world politics here, not football politics. It is a great thing that the stadium will be funded by mostly private capital (thus saving not only heaps of our money but also heaps of bureaucracy that would otherwise force us to wait 'till 2030 or so to see the stadium) - but it is not Andres Sanchez who is responsible for keeping true to that promise, but Kassab and Serra/Goldman. Furthermore, the sãopaulinos should be upset not due to the new stadium (which should be great news for everyone bar the jealous pricks) but due to the political BS that preceded the whole thing (and, admittedly, also with our club's incompetence to secure funding for the rebuilding of Morumbi).

To close on a positive note, I must agree with some of the other folks in that it is the most beautiful stadium I have seen in quite a while :)
 
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