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FIFA 10 substitution bug

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SAMUELKATALAN

Senior Squad
Hi everyone, unfortunately I got a bug, which it consist that whenever I make a substitution lets see for example: Pedro (in) Ibrahimovic (out), later in the game a nother substitution (Bojan) (in) Pedro (out), it seems that same player that is in, it is replaced after, and this is not dealing with an injury, this is how PC substitution works. Does anyone notice this issue?
 
regularcat

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
SAMUELKATALAN;2779549 said:
it seems that same player that is in, it is replaced after, and this is not dealing with an injury, this is how PC substitution works. Does anyone notice this issue?
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i dont understand this part of your issue, explain either better or in more detail.
 
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Champion757

Youth Team
regularcat;2779772 said:
i dont understand this part of your issue, explain either better or in more detail.
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I think what he means is that when a player is subbed in manually, that same player is subbed out automatically later in the game. The part of the issue that you quote basically says that "it's not like that player is injured or something". He means that it's an automatic thing every time. (that the player he subs in is subbed out automatically later in the game) without an injury occurring.
 
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Moussie_G

Club Supporter
Yeah, I noticed it as well. The players the cpu subs in, are mostly subbed out a few (game)minutes later. Does anybody has got a solution?
 
regularcat

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
Moussie_G;2779915 said:
Yeah, I noticed it as well. The players the cpu subs in, are mostly subbed out a few (game)minutes later. Does anybody has got a solution?
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never witnessed it.
 
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silvone

Starting XI
SAMUELKATALAN;2779549 said:
Hi everyone, unfortunately I got a bug, which it consist that whenever I make a substitution lets see for example: Pedro (in) Ibrahimovic (out), later in the game a nother substitution (Bojan) (in) Pedro (out), it seems that same player that is in, it is replaced after, and this is not dealing with an injury, this is how PC substitution works. Does anyone notice this issue?
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It happens a lot to me, it's very annoying but to be sincere i don't personally know any solutions to this.
Eg:Barca(me)-Real (cpu)

So, i, Barca, playing against Real and they make the first sub:Benzema out,Granero in.After, let's say 10 minutes, second sub:Granero out Gago in.:)
Later in the game, the last sub for Real.Are you guys already guessing who it will be out? :innocent_smile_1: Gago is the choosen one.

That's what Samuel Katalan meant.Cheers

Post reply pls if any of you knows a fix for this.
 
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Champion757

Youth Team
I witnessed this issue today. Hopefully there's some way to solve it. Anyone have any ideas? Was this an issue in FIFA 09?
 
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Recrero152

Reserve Team
Yep, I've seen it too, it happens occationally everytime I play it, very weird but maybe EA will have it fixed at their patch for FIFA
 
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Champion757

Youth Team
Recrero152;2787217 said:
Yep, I've seen it too, it happens occationally everytime I play it, very weird but maybe EA will have it fixed at their patch for FIFA
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What do you mean occasionally every time you play it?

Does it happen every time or sometimes?

Are there times where the CPU only subs once per game? Are there times where the CPU subs more than once per game and doesn't replace the original sub?

Please answer this question : do you notice that when the CPU subs out the first sub subbed in, is it always the same amount of game minutes later? From what I've seen, in non-injury situations, the CPU seems to make their first sub within the first 10 game minutes of the second half. And from what I've seen, the CPU makes their second sub replacing the guy who was subbed in minutes earlier within about 10 minutes of the 1st sub. (by the 60th minute usually)

The first step is lets try to narrow down the timing of this and the repro rate of this bug. I have only played a few games. So anyone who has noticed this issue please share specifics in their experiences like does this happen every game or only sometimes and when does it happen.
Seemingly, the entire CPU substitution process needs to be streamlined. Meaning, like anytime there is more than two players in the red fatigue level by the second half, the CPU should make a minimum of two subs in the game, and those two subs should replace two different players who each have red levels of fatigue.

There should be times where the CPU uses all three subs, especially if the user has used their 3rd sub and the game is close. If EA doesn't release a patch for this, then this is something that we should try to think outside the box for every possible way to fix this problem. It could mean finding old ai.ini parameters from past FIFA games that aren't in the default ai.ini for FIFA 10. Finally, has anyone ever seen the CPU make more than 2 non-injury subs

Thanks. Lets get to the bottom of this so we have the information necessary to potentially solve it.
 
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dunde

Club Supporter
I witnessed the bug many times at 2nd half when the game is stag on 0-0 or CPU's behind by 1 goal. CPU tried to change one of it's forward, and after minutes still stag, he's replaced again.
 
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dunde

Club Supporter
I witnessed the bug many times at 2nd half when the game is stag on 0-0 or CPU's behind by 1 goal. CPU tried to change one of it's forward, and after minutes still stag, he's replaced again.
 
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Champion757

Youth Team
SAMUELKATALAN;2788129 said:
jajajajajajajaja, that´s how it is, this is really difficult to get fix :D
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There has to be some way to fix this. Or at least something to alleviate the problem. Is this an issue on the console versions too? If so, has a patch been released for console versions?

Could there be any ai.ini parameters from old FIFA games that control CPU subs?
 
regularcat

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
try disabling //CPU do tactic sub or not
DO_CPU_SUB = 1

doubt it would fix it, but you can try, as the issue might be what ea considers a tactical sub.

we all obviously know, that 95% of the ea staff that puts in work on the fifa series knows nothing about football/soccer. period.
 
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Champion757

Youth Team
regularcat;2788689 said:
try disabling //CPU do tactic sub or not
DO_CPU_SUB = 1

doubt it would fix it, but you can try, as the issue might be what ea considers a tactical sub.

we all obviously know, that 95% of the ea staff that puts in work on the fifa series knows nothing about football/soccer. period.
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I've actually been messing with this parameter. I set it equal to 10 instead of 1. And actually in one game they subbed in two different players. Then the next game it reverted and they subbed out the same guy they subbed in.

I'll try disabling it. By disabling it, do you mean set it = 0, delete the parameter from ai.ini, or commenting it out with // ? I think if I set it to 0 they probably won't make any subs. But I'll try commenting it out and perhaps I'll try setting that equal to values different than 1. Like I said, I set it to 10 and for one game the bug didn't occur. It may have something to do with when you as the user sub. Because I think in the game where the bug didn't occur with DO_CPU_SUB = 10, I made two subs before the CPU made any subs. (that could be why not sure) No one has given me an answer as to whether or not they have had games where the CPU has subbed correctly or whether this bug happens for them every single game.

So all I know is with DO_CPU_SUB = 10, one game they subbed correctly, the next game they didn't. I'll try to comment it out and see what happens. If anyone tries this or any other values please share their observations.
 
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