Kitserver 7

skice;2430833 said:

What i do is to set LOD using Ati tray tools (to -1). As result i have detailed players, with faces visible, more detailed grass, even logos on a chests are visible (on camera wide, on low settings). It would be just fine, if we can force settings to show crowd and strips.

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hmm where in tools do you set it ? Is it general LOD for all games ?

Kitserver 7.0.1
what's new:
- GUI interface for lodmixer (lodcfg.exe)
- LOD adjustment sliders
- partial support for PES2008 1.10

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Awesome job Juce, ur a star

I have a wierd problem tho. When I set the LOD sliders to lower than 0.045 I get really annoying slowdowns during the game. Not really in any particular situations, just randomly... Is there any way to find out whats wrong? Does it happens to anyone else?

Luckily on 0.045 I can still see the cloth animations and in general it looks great.. I just wanted to use the highest possible settings. Maybe my rig is not good enuff idk , I use 8800GTX btw.

juce_66;2431180 said:

Kitserver 7.0.1
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enjoy.

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Tnx guys, u rox.

Konami has to pay you for this...

Thanks again for hard and excellent work on KitServer/LoD.

thx for the kitserver update. Btw JUCE can u explain more specific what exactly LOD switch 0/1 and LOD switch 1/2 different ? so we can actually play with it to get the max setting allow for our PC spec. =) Thx in advance

PS: i have read the readme file it only tell us to drag to right for max setting left for lower setting. Did not explain what 0/1 changes on or 1/2 changes for.

thanks for the update keep up the good work

chitchat;2431445 said:

thx for the kitserver update. Btw JUCE can u explain more specific what exactly LOD switch 0/1 and LOD switch 1/2 different ? so we can actually play with it to get the max setting allow for our PC spec. =) Thx in advance

PS: i have read the readme file it only tell us to drag to right for max setting left for lower setting. Did not explain what 0/1 changes on or 1/2 changes for.

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There's 3 levels of detail: 0,1,2.
Level 0 - is the most detailed player models, bigger textures, accurate faces, nice-looking grass, etc. This is used mostly in replays, or during the gameplay, when the camera is very close to the player.
Level 1 - player models are less detailed, smaller textures used, faces appear to be generic (although not always). This level is used actively during the gameplay. It looks fine on smaller resolutions, but when you have 1680x1050 or 1920x1200, the artifacts become visible.
Level 2 - the models are much simpler, the polygon count is lot smaller. Small textures used. It looks ok, when the object is far from the camera, but not when it's close.

As the players move to or away from the camera (viewer), the game engine decides which LOD level to use, because it tries to maintain a good constant framerate, and there's no point using Level 0 for a player, which only occupies 10x20 pixels on the screen.

So, when you adjust the sliders in LOD Mixer, you change those switch-points, when the engine decides to go from one LOD level to another. For example, if you move both of them all the way to the left - then Level 2 will be always used. It won't be pretty, but it'll be much less work for the graphics card. On the other extreme, if you move both sliders all the way to the right, then Level 0 will be always used. It won't look perfect either (unless you have a really large screen and a really good videocard), because there will be aliasing, and the frame rate will drop, so the gameplay will become really choppy. The right solution is somewhere in the middle, but you'll need to find it by experiment, as it will be slightly different for everyone, depending on exact specs of your PC. Default slider position are 0.095 and 0.070. (If you uncheck the "Custom LOD configuration" checkbox, the sliders will return to their defaults)

thanks for this juce. i hope you can use you wizard skills to find a fix for the refresh rate issues too. thx so much!

Crowds And Strips On Low Settings!!!!

Juce, can u try to force game to show crowds and grass strips on low settings??
It would be nice for owners of old graphics cards.I have radeon 9250 and i can`t use medium settings.The screen is black when i put medium settings it is probably because of the pixel shader..9250 only support 1.4!!So my pes would be nice to play with the crowds and strips!! Thanx!

For owners of ATI cards - use Ati tray tools - direct 3d - settings - additional - texture lod adjustments - (-1).
You will get detailed players and grass. No particular need for kitserver for this purpose.
I hope somethin is going on with low settings crowds and strip issue.

Juce, don't get me wrong, I extremely appreciate your work, just want to emphases that "low settings", pixel shader, and fps issues should be priority in this moment.
Thanks

skice;2432007 said:

For owners of ATI cards - use Ati tray tools - direct 3d - settings - additional - texture lod adjustments - (-1).
You will get detailed players and grass. No particular need for kitserver for this purpose.
I hope somethin is going on with low settings crowds and strip issue.

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Is there something similar for Nvidia cards? if not, all Nvidia old cards need something done with kitserver.

what do you call "detailled players and grass" do you have bump on the kits and pattern on the grass?

electrosplitter;2432097 said:

Is there something similar for Nvidia cards? if not, all Nvidia old cards need something done with kitserver.

what do you call "detailled players and grass" do you have bump on the kits and pattern on the grass?

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yes there, its called Rivatuner, and it works for both ati and nvidia, almost any card, limitation is in driver version, you could get more info on guru3d.com

skice;2432007 said:

For owners of ATI cards - use Ati tray tools - direct 3d - settings - additional - texture lod adjustments - (-1).
You will get detailed players and grass. No particular need for kitserver for this purpose.
I hope somethin is going on with low settings crowds and strip issue.

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Soooo...I take it this also works for people who have an ATI Radeon 9250 also?

will this trick give the players all those folds on the shirts that they get with a high graphics setting?

Thanks in advance!

I tried differents LOD parameters in Rivatuner (-1, -3), but I still don't have bumps on the kits, player's hairs are still all blacks and there is no pattern on the grass in LOW setting mode...

Does someone know if there is another thing to activate to allow this?

Thanks guys for the kitserver has improved the game beyond all realms I thought possible,

One small point if I may, I have now lost all commentary since installing kitserver - is there any reason for this ? I have tried dxdiag at basic and full acceleration's as well.

Any help warmly appreciated.

Thanks

It might sound stupid but - did you check if you accidently turned off the commentary in the sound settings? Did you delete/rename the commentary files in the img folder? Another possibility: In PES6, you had to reload some settings after applying some patches. Maybe you have to do that here as well. I can't remember what settings that were, but i think it was the the language you had to choose again. If that doesn't help, try it without Kitserver and try to reinstall the game.

Thanks for that Robbie,

I checked everything you have said but I have now noticed something funny,

In system settings there are no sliders for Commentary , sound effects and BGM. Although I get them all except for commentary ?

Any ideas ?

You mean that they are simply missing? That's strange indeed... could you post a screenshot of the sound settings dialog?

Slider in my also disappeared