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The Official Manchester United Thread [2006/2007]

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BenBeckham

Reserve Team
Excellent Quote:
Little is as straightforward as it seems on Planet Beckham, but perhaps the most accurate assessment of an overhyped yet occasionally maligned talent came yesterday from Jorge Valdano, the former Real sporting director, who was instrumental in bringing him to Spain in 2003.

“Those who resent football becoming a business, also resent Beckham — a symbol of the game’s commercialisation,” Valdano said. “It is unfair because he has talent and professionalism. On the pitch he plays football in the classic British style, giving everything for the cause.

“On the pitch he creates for the forwards, he threatens the opposition goal because of the quality of his shooting, he covers the full back, he sticks his foot in with bravery and then he combs his hair, dresses up and leaves the dressing-room . . . and there his other life begins.”


Anyway


Pros
- He’s a United Fan trough and trough
- forget all that talk about Final Pay Days – it’s not the money which he’s after – see *
- experience
- teamplayer
- still excellent providing plenty of assists
- a dead ball specialist
- he’s available on a free transfer in summer 2007 or for a little fee in January 2007
- he wants back to play for England so he will want to do good performances in order to have a chance

Cons
- the media circus (but hey it would take pressure away of Ronaldo and Rooney for example) that surely would be – because if he comes the Glazer want to make profits


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What Becks wants is play more (not necessarily 90 minutes and every game) just more than the odd 8min cameo appeareance and actually feel accepted in a team.

Where to play him? Central Midfield

C. Ronaldo has done fantastic since the World Cup (cutting the negative almost completly, iproving generally, maturing, becoming a teamplayer) , as have Giggs, Scholes (having revivals of their class form)

Carrick – so far he has not been worth 5M £ and Becks remains better than Richardson, OShea, Fletcher. His workrate is equal to Park.

Anyway IF he would come back Becks could easily play in Carricks position for example – Carrick is no ballwinner, or big runner either.

C.Ronaldo-Becks-Scholes-Giggs
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
Fernandez said:
What we have here is a Beckham-biased idiot who can't accept the fact that he won't be coming back to United.

Where do I see Beckham next year: Three words ........

Major League Soccer.




Mike
 

SlowSilver

Fan Favourite
BenBeckham said:
Anyway IF he would come back Becks could easily play in Carricks position for example – Carrick is no ballwinner, or big runner either.

Beckham isn't a ball winner...so whats your actual point?
 

Help?

Fan Favourite
mnj2x said:
what the...... did you see how many times carrick misplaced his passes? and how many times scholes completed his passes... carrick can never replace scholes. He lacks the creativity. But he does give 1 or 2 good passes out of the blue
And did you see how many goals Rooney scored there?


Don't be judging a player based on form. Carrick was the best passer in EPL last year. So you are telling me that, if we actually play him in position he is used to and strived at Tottenham, he will still be crap?
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
Help? said:
And did you see how many goals Rooney scored there?


Don't be judging a player based on form. Carrick was the best passer in EPL last year. So you are telling me that, if we actually play him in position he is used to and strived at Tottenham, he will still be crap?
To excel, Carrick needs a defense-minded player behind him. Combining Carrick with a real DM would take the hole out of our midfield, yes, but it also means that our central midfield has no goalscoring threat. Carrick is not an AM by any means at all, he contributes to the attack, yes, and he does it well when he is given proper support and freedom. But he does not get forward in the sense of getting into goalscoring positions, he is a deeplying playmaker, and one who doesn't have any sort of decent shot from distance.

With Carrick in the team, in a 4-4-2, I feel that he will never excel (when I say excel, I mean both personally playing great, and making the team better) in the center. As the more defenseminded player (AKA Carrick/Scholes pairing), he is not solid enough on defense and won't win enough battles. As the more attackminded player, he will do well himself in his own game, but won't contribute the necessary goal threat from the center.
 

Daz

Everyone's Favourite Diabetic
"Walsall's Portuguese under-17 international Evandro Brandao is to join Manchester United after the clubs came to an agreement (Mail)."

Anyone know this guy?
 

SlowSilver

Fan Favourite
I know a few Walsall fans who say he's 'the next big thing'. But the fact that he's 15 playing for his national team (no matter what level) speaks for itself.
 

Nuno

Starting XI
Dazmania said:
"Walsall's Portuguese under-17 international Evandro Brandao is to join Manchester United after the clubs came to an agreement (Mail)."

Anyone know this guy?

I havn't heard of him, yet. It's good that he's going to United. It's done wonders for Ronaldo.
 

Daz

Everyone's Favourite Diabetic
Starting line-up Vs Crewe:

29 Tomasz Kuszczak
36 David Gray
6 Wes Brown
27 Mikael Silvestre
4 Gabriel Heinze
41 Phil Marsh
25 David Jones
49 Richie Jones
23 Kieran Richardson
14 Alan Smith
20 Ole Solskjaer
 

Help?

Fan Favourite
Right, meh, even better that way. Youngsters get more experience, while recovering first teamers get more match fitness. Hopefully United win/
 

SlowSilver

Fan Favourite
Heh, just watching Paul Merson on Sky Sports, he says that he'd be worried if he were a United fan. According to him, Man Utd have poor youngsters and Crewe have better players.

Opinions? :p
 
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