F1 Prediction Thread 2006

Krypton X said:

the best driver this season won't win the comp

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I was under the impression that the best driver had the most points.

Krypton X said:

So, does anyone know how much it costs to hire a hitman in Brazil?

only kidding of course............................... but seriously, do you know?

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Depends on who you want to kill, and how you want it to be done. Nah, I don't really know, but I've heard reports of people paying around 20 dollars to get someone killed. Sad but true.

Tough luck on Michael, but that's sport...

Kibe Kru said:

Depends on who you want to kill, and how you want it to be done. Nah, I don't really know, but I've heard reports of people paying around 20 dollars to get someone killed. Sad but true.

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Wow $20 bucks. That means I can afford to take out the whole Renault crew (drivers, engineers, etc) and still have plenty of cash to spare. But probably not, a bit of diarrhea-inducing syrup in Alonso's coffee should do the job just as well

ScimitarPES2 said:

I was under the impression that the best driver had the most points.

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Only in a perfect world maybe. When all cars raced performed exactly the same.

With a competent mechanic of the right rear tyre, Alonso would have won the competition before Suzuka. Schumacher is lucky to have a chance at all.

Krypton X said:

Only in a perfect world maybe. When all cars raced performed exactly the same.

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Still, the better drivers are in the better teams, so it all evens out in the end. *nods*

Anyway, I remember 4 seasons when the 'best' driver had a car far superior to anyone else, so I suppose it works both ways.

Dream Team said:

With a competent mechanic of the right rear tyre, Alonso would have won the competition before Suzuka. Schumacher is lucky to have a chance at all.

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I think you all remember how much Bridgestone and Ferrari were struggling at the beginning of the year, after they had only won one race in the whole of 2005 (at the US which most teams boycotted). Half-way through the 2006 season Alonso had already managed to establish a 25 point lead in the driver's championship, starting from the US grand prix however Schumacher closed this gap by winning 5 of the next 7 races.

And since you bring up Alonso's reliabilty issues..

Alonso - races failed to finish: Hungary, Monza

(Schumacher was always going to win Monza, Alonso only qualified in 5th and was then demoted to 10th after impeding Massa in qualifying)

Schumacher - races failed to finish: Australia, Hungary, Suzuka

(Don't forget that he was stripped of his pole position in the Monaco GP and was forced to start from the back of the grid. Alonso won that race and Schumacher finished fifth. He was in 2nd place in Turkey behind Massa and then when the safety car came on he lost 6 seconds queueing up behing Massa in the pits, effectively handing 2nd place to Alonso, who barely managed to hold off Schumacher in the end by less than 0.10 seconds. Schumacher was also on course to comfortably win in Japan before his engine failed.)

ScimitarPES2 said:

Still, the better drivers are in the better teams, so it all evens out in the end. *nods*

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If you mean Schumacher and Alonso then you're probably right. But imho Massa and Fisichella are not as good as say Raikkonen, Button, or Kubica. Yet the points table does not reflect this.

ScimitarPES2 said:

Anyway, I remember 4 seasons when the 'best' driver had a car far superior to anyone else, so I suppose it works both ways.

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Schumacher emerged as a star for Jordan (briefly) and then for Benetton at a time when Williams and McLaren were the powerhouses of F1. He then moved to the even more downtrodden Ferrari outfit and completely changed their fortunes considering the fact that Ferrari had not won a single drivers championship since 1979, despite employing the skills of big name drivers like Gerhard Berger and Jean Alesi.

Today Schumacher holds nearly every record there is in F1 and has won nearly as many GPs as Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna put together.

And as great a talent as Alonso is, and I think he's a exceptional driver, but he's no where near as good as Michael (even at the age of 37) and arguably never will be.

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Getting interesting at the top now.

Krypton X said:

I think you all remember how much Bridgestone and Ferrari were struggling at the beginning of the year, after they had only won one race in the whole of 2005 (at the US which most teams boycotted). Half-way through the 2006 season Alonso had already managed to establish a 25 point lead in the driver's championship, starting from the US grand prix however Schumacher closed this gap by winning 5 of the next 7 races.

And since you bring up Alonso's reliabilty issues..

Alonso - races failed to finish: Hungary, Monza

(Schumacher was always going to win Monza, Alonso only qualified in 5th and was then demoted to 10th after impeding Massa in qualifying)

Schumacher - races failed to finish: Australia, Hungary, Suzuka

(Don't forget that he was stripped of his pole position in the Monaco GP and was forced to start from the back of the grid. Alonso won that race and Schumacher finished fifth. He was in 2nd place in Turkey behind Massa and then when the safety car came on he lost 6 seconds queueing up behing Massa in the pits, effectively handing 2nd place to Alonso, who barely managed to hold off Schumacher in the end by less than 0.10 seconds. Schumacher was also on course to comfortably win in Japan before his engine failed.)

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Alonso's punishment in Monza was laughable.

I don't remember the track but Alonso had to race with double amount of fuel in the tank because his team screwed up. Two times that Alonso couldn't win the race because there was a problem with the rear right tyre. One of them in Hungary, where Alonso was comfortably leading the race and he lapped Schumacher. Schumacher couldn't end that race because HE decided not to change the rain tyres when the track was dry.

Shumacher was stripped of his pole position in the Monaco GP? Schumacher is the only one to blame for that, and besides Alonso would have gotten the pole position if that shameful incident wouldn't have happened.

Most of the times Shumacher could count with Massa. Fisichella went to the celebration of Schumacher's last victory, the same race that Alonso could have won if only Fisichella would have stopped Schumacher when Alonso had problems with the front tyres.

In the second half of the season when Ferrari has been by far the best car, Alonso has been the only one who could put his car between Schumacher and Massa. It's not like Schumacher has done a miracle with his car. On dry, the Bridgestone have been clearly superior in the second half of the season. Just look at the Toyotas and the McLarens in Suzuka to see the difference.

Schumacher's engine failure in Suzuka was his first in a Ferrari since 2000 so I don't think he can complain about the reliability of his car.

Krypton X said:

Aaaaaaaaaaargghhh......that lucky bast@rd Alonso

the best driver this season won't win the comp

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Just like last year. Raikkonen was clearly the best driver in 2005, but reliability cost him.

What a stupid comparison..

If you mean Schumacher wasn't as reliable as Alonso, then you're right.

One engine failure in 6 years. If that's bad luck, then Alonso is also unlucky because it happened to him in Monza. Both drivers had to abandon only once this season because of engine problems.

The other two races that Schumacher couldn't end were because of his own mistakes, not a problem of reliability of his car.

Raikkonen's bad luck is not even comparable with Shumacher's. Black and white. Day and night.

M.Schumacher had an unlucky moment at the wrong time. But if Aonso were to win the championship, then he would deserve every moment of it since he acquired more points than M.Schumacher.

Way too early prediction:

1. M Schumacher
2. F Massa
3. N Heidfeld

1.M.Schumacher
2.Massa
3.Raikonenn

1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. M Schumacher

1. M. Schumacher
2. F. Massa
3. K. Raikkonen

1. Massa
2. Raikkonen
3. Alonso

1. F. Massa
2. K. Raikkonen
3. F. Alonso

1. F Alonso
2. K Raikkonen
3. M Schumacher

1: Raikkonen
2: Alonso
3: Schumacher