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NEW! Biggy's Gameplay Update For FIFA 06 V.2 !
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Biggy's Gameplay Update v2.5
Ok, v2.5 now available for download.
I've added Dave's name to the credits for the huge help that he did, I say huge because I seriously reached to a stage where I was going around in circles with the CPU attacks, lol.
Anyways, I hope that you all enjoy this version of the update.
Click Here to Download Biggy's GPU v2.5 for Fifa 06
Ok, v2.5 now available for download.
I've added Dave's name to the credits for the huge help that he did, I say huge because I seriously reached to a stage where I was going around in circles with the CPU attacks, lol.
Anyways, I hope that you all enjoy this version of the update.
Click Here to Download Biggy's GPU v2.5 for Fifa 06
Well, I'm honoured 
One thing I think needs a little tweaking as well is the instances where players collide and then both are knocked off the ball momentarily...for whatever reason both are stunned for too long and the ball just sits there while both try to recover....a little unrealistic IMO....
Yet, I'm not sure which variable modifies that, perhaps Biggy you have a better idea than me or perhaps NK as well.
I'm going to download 2.5 so I can just .exe it into my other FIFA06 on the other drive
and check out the credit 
Dave
One thing I think needs a little tweaking as well is the instances where players collide and then both are knocked off the ball momentarily...for whatever reason both are stunned for too long and the ball just sits there while both try to recover....a little unrealistic IMO....
Yet, I'm not sure which variable modifies that, perhaps Biggy you have a better idea than me or perhaps NK as well.
I'm going to download 2.5 so I can just .exe it into my other FIFA06 on the other drive
and check out the credit Dave
Ash_Clarke
Youth Team
exerslow said:Well, I'm honoured
One thing I think needs a little tweaking as well is the instances where players collide and then both are knocked off the ball momentarily...for whatever reason both are stunned for too long and the ball just sits there while both try to recover....a little unrealistic IMO....
I ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY AGREE!
This has been annoying me quite a bit but I just thought it was an EA thing
It does take too long for them to recover and does need fixing
Good Luck Gameplay Editing Gurus of the year.
Cheers
-- Ash Clarke
nickclubman
Starting XI
exerslow said:Well, I'm honoured
One thing I think needs a little tweaking as well is the instances where players collide and then both are knocked off the ball momentarily...for whatever reason both are stunned for too long and the ball just sits there while both try to recover....a little unrealistic IMO....
Yet, I'm not sure which variable modifies that, perhaps Biggy you have a better idea than me or perhaps NK as well.
I'm going to download 2.5 so I can just .exe it into my other FIFA06 on the other drive
Dave
lol, how dare you downgrade my knowledge when it is but you fellow players' who use my work to create yours! muwhahahahaha!!!!
lol, just messin. I know what the problem is and it's something that was probably in v3 of my update and carried on through biggy's, etc.
I'll fix it in V5. Infact, nope...wait! It is fixed haha.
NK.
No, I wasn't downgrading your knowledge NK its just the way I wrote it....what I meany was that both you and Biggy would probably know because I don't. Which variable controls that collision ****e
Dave
PS- continuing to have super-fun with 2.5....really challenging. Just had a 2-2 game I won in penalties MU v Lazio. Some great goals.....gotta upload some replays.
Dave
PS- continuing to have super-fun with 2.5....really challenging. Just had a 2-2 game I won in penalties MU v Lazio. Some great goals.....gotta upload some replays.
nickclubman
Starting XI
exerslow said:No, I wasn't downgrading your knowledge NK its just the way I wrote it....what I meany was that both you and Biggy would probably know because I don't. Which variable controls that collision ****e
Dave
PS- continuing to have super-fun with 2.5....really challenging. Just had a 2-2 game I won in penalties MU v Lazio. Some great goals.....gotta upload some replays.
Collisions, etc can be put down to a detection, or in some cases an 'avoided tackle'. If you have both avoided losing the ball and just knocked into eachother then there might be a set timer for how long the player is 'stunned' after avoiding a challenge and on the basic of that players' attributes. I know in the past that when two players' bumped into eachother in one of my past updates, my player was left there standing for quite a while. It might've been v3, most likely is because I started editing more of the game.
NK.
2.5....great stuff
Nicky...
Looking forward as always to your latest effort...but B.I.G., what can I say...2.5 is simply breathtaking. Only played two games...but they have been really intense. First game was in my "G14" league with ManU against Valencia. Van Nistelrooy scored early with a header...after the goalie missed the cross. Reached halftime with ManU on 9 shots...Valencia 2 and thought "Oh boy...another gameplay where the CPU is no good in attack." But the came the second half and oh my God...I was under seige...shots were flyingin from every where...I was scrambling...Valencia had their tales up and were coming at me from all angles. I did manage to cobble together a few passes in the 65th minute...and got it to RVN just inside the "D". he hammered in an ustoppable blast top right...just before he was wiped out by a sliding tackle and had to go off with an injury. Still Valencia came on...scoring in the 77th minute to set up the grandstand finish. I switched to the 4-1-2-1-2...and managed to choke out the game with a big assist from O'Shea playing the deep midfielder. Shots finished ManU 13-7...Valencia 12-9...really cool stuff
Then moved on to another of my careers...playing as Leicester in my first year...against Stoke. And this turned out to be a defensive and ball control struggle...neither side able to really break the other down. I got a striker behind the defense only once...and the goalie made a great stab to his right...and that was it. Shots finished Liecester 8-5, Stoke 9-7.
Again...just some great stuff. It's really exciting to be involved with FIFA right at the moment. These gameplay updates are just really cool. So far...Biggy's 2.5 is ahead...let's see what you got Clubman!
Cheers all and keep 'em comin'
mutiger
Nicky...
Looking forward as always to your latest effort...but B.I.G., what can I say...2.5 is simply breathtaking. Only played two games...but they have been really intense. First game was in my "G14" league with ManU against Valencia. Van Nistelrooy scored early with a header...after the goalie missed the cross. Reached halftime with ManU on 9 shots...Valencia 2 and thought "Oh boy...another gameplay where the CPU is no good in attack." But the came the second half and oh my God...I was under seige...shots were flyingin from every where...I was scrambling...Valencia had their tales up and were coming at me from all angles. I did manage to cobble together a few passes in the 65th minute...and got it to RVN just inside the "D". he hammered in an ustoppable blast top right...just before he was wiped out by a sliding tackle and had to go off with an injury. Still Valencia came on...scoring in the 77th minute to set up the grandstand finish. I switched to the 4-1-2-1-2...and managed to choke out the game with a big assist from O'Shea playing the deep midfielder. Shots finished ManU 13-7...Valencia 12-9...really cool stuff
Then moved on to another of my careers...playing as Leicester in my first year...against Stoke. And this turned out to be a defensive and ball control struggle...neither side able to really break the other down. I got a striker behind the defense only once...and the goalie made a great stab to his right...and that was it. Shots finished Liecester 8-5, Stoke 9-7.
Again...just some great stuff. It's really exciting to be involved with FIFA right at the moment. These gameplay updates are just really cool. So far...Biggy's 2.5 is ahead...let's see what you got Clubman!
Cheers all and keep 'em comin'
mutiger
nickclubman
Starting XI
mutiger said:
Hmmm. I'm not trying to be evil here, but I found the gameplay unbalanced, the ball physics to be strange and the goalkeepers to be extremely 'GIFTED!' if that's the word. I won and managed to defend pretty easily, breaking the defence was easy but scoring past superman was not. If the shooting/goalkeeper values were balanced then I would've scored 5 goals easily. If you had ANY of those amounts of shots in my V5 as you get in biggys 2.5 you'd score 4 goals easily!!
Here are my results. The goal the CPU scored was from a cross, the keeper came out and the CPU player headed the ball in, but something about it didn't look quite right. It was a realistic situation though. the results kinda remind me of the original EA SPORTS gameplay results, where you have loads of shots and manage to scrape in a goal or two, then along come the CPU, shoot and score!
NK.
Luis Ah-Hoy
Senior Squad
BiGGY... I played like, 5 games with your 2.5!
I must say it's more dificult to score (or in other words, less easy), than in NK's latest GPU... but i think that has more to do with the improvement you made on the Gk's...
But still, i only have to be 65% concentrated to win... still very easy to penetrate the defence, and CPU attacks against me, are very very rare...
One annoying point (and this is EA's fault, not yours), is that.... when the CPU is attacking, and his player has the opportunity to just sprint forward to create a dangerous situation, most of times he never does that... it's just... too lame, too slow...
Anyway, i'll continue trying every single GPU, from you and from NK's... so i'm looking forward to your next releases...
ps: I always play on Legendary!
I must say it's more dificult to score (or in other words, less easy), than in NK's latest GPU... but i think that has more to do with the improvement you made on the Gk's...
But still, i only have to be 65% concentrated to win... still very easy to penetrate the defence, and CPU attacks against me, are very very rare...
One annoying point (and this is EA's fault, not yours), is that.... when the CPU is attacking, and his player has the opportunity to just sprint forward to create a dangerous situation, most of times he never does that... it's just... too lame, too slow...
Anyway, i'll continue trying every single GPU, from you and from NK's... so i'm looking forward to your next releases...
ps: I always play on Legendary!
nickclubman
Starting XI
Here are the results after playing exactly the same match using V5. The only way I scored was because Roberto Carlos in 90 minutes got slack and passed the ball back, but the gk had just dived and was in the way, so it hit him and juuust crept into the back of the net! the commentators found it amusing.
Check it out! As you can see, breaking the defence is difficult and defending against the CPU sure is difficult too!! The cpu goals were brilliant.
I will admit I did enjoy biggys v2.5. Maybe users with a lower skill level would be better off with biggy's.
NK.
NOTE: THIS IS A 16 MINUTE MATCH PLAYED IN WORLD CLASS.
Check it out! As you can see, breaking the defence is difficult and defending against the CPU sure is difficult too!! The cpu goals were brilliant.
I will admit I did enjoy biggys v2.5. Maybe users with a lower skill level would be better off with biggy's.
NK.
NOTE: THIS IS A 16 MINUTE MATCH PLAYED IN WORLD CLASS.
Interesting news from all of you guys... I'm sorry that I couldn't keep up with the discussion as I'm co-directing in a short movie, then editing it later next week. busy, busy.
Anyways, I find most of the replies all positive, I mean it seems that most of the members are liking v2.5 more than the others which makes me very happy to know that I and everybody else who is helping are improving this game to the better.
I like the fact that we are all working as a team, whenever I'm not able to answer the replies I find Dave or NK answering them, which is a total help for me... Thanks guys.
NK, I'll be waiting for your v5 update for sure.
Anyways, I find most of the replies all positive, I mean it seems that most of the members are liking v2.5 more than the others which makes me very happy to know that I and everybody else who is helping are improving this game to the better.
I like the fact that we are all working as a team, whenever I'm not able to answer the replies I find Dave or NK answering them, which is a total help for me... Thanks guys.
NK, I'll be waiting for your v5 update for sure.
I just finished trying NK's V5 and I don't care for it too much. Very weak defensively. A little more offense here and there but I crushed all comers with whatever team I was Unsing (see NK's thread).
Anyhow, I klooked more closely at what NK had done and among realizing why the defence is so weak, I could see little tweaks to the offense here and there.
I re-intalled Biggy 2.5 but took the cpudiff, ai and default, and modded them again in an effort to try to get more CPU offense. I tewaked some ratings really far to see what they'll do and I just finished a match with United V Tottenham where I won 2-1 in injury time when I sliced open the defence with a pass to Giggs who rocketed it off Robinsons hands from close range and into the net. It was a great game. Shots were 12/8 me, to 9/5 for them.
Thery took more long range shots from the tweaking I did but I think I tweaked the closing out of the defence too much, lowering it to 695 from 800.
I'm going to go try some things when I get up tommorrow after I watch the Chelsea game.
Dave
Anyhow, I klooked more closely at what NK had done and among realizing why the defence is so weak, I could see little tweaks to the offense here and there.
I re-intalled Biggy 2.5 but took the cpudiff, ai and default, and modded them again in an effort to try to get more CPU offense. I tewaked some ratings really far to see what they'll do and I just finished a match with United V Tottenham where I won 2-1 in injury time when I sliced open the defence with a pass to Giggs who rocketed it off Robinsons hands from close range and into the net. It was a great game. Shots were 12/8 me, to 9/5 for them.
Thery took more long range shots from the tweaking I did but I think I tweaked the closing out of the defence too much, lowering it to 695 from 800.
I'm going to go try some things when I get up tommorrow after I watch the Chelsea game.
Dave
Cool news, I actually was tweaking some aspects as well, I'm trying some new stuff, but still no great results. Dave, whenever you have some good tweaks let me know, because you may help me in some areas that I can be lost in.
Good luck for Chelsea in their game. Talk to you later.
Good luck for Chelsea in their game. Talk to you later.
nickclubman
Starting XI
Biggy the physics are too slow! If you see a real football it does fall quite fast, the force of gravity is not that equal to the moon! You need to try out ways to get the ball to dip and bend realistically, fall fast when it should and hang in the air for longer when it should, not just glide everywhere. Although it does the job to slow the game down it does make it kinda boring to watch. My V5 will look EXTREMELY heavy once you are used to the physics of your 2.5. I understand that V5 is too easy for some so first thing I'm gonna do is make v6 hard as f*ck!
Your collaboration of other updates has made 2.5 a strong update, well done
NK.
Your collaboration of other updates has made 2.5 a strong update, well done
NK.
NK, I'm sorry man if I was being honest, but I think that I'm absolutely right... I've re checked the videos again and again, then compared them to my v2.5 gameplay and your v5 and I found out that I have almost perfect ball physics, I mean by perfect that they imitate real world ball hits, resistance and bounces.
I think that you got too used to your fast settings that it made mine seem slow, but seriously man, I'm 100% sure about what I'm saying, and if you need more explanation I can get you some videos and give you a small comparison between my update and yours, I'm just being real and honest.
Your v5 ball physics are good in some situations but, fast in many other situations, and the ball seems to bounce only 2 or 3 times, where in real soccer the ball bounces 5 or 6 and sometimes 7 times, because it is made from the inside of rubber which gives it the feel of bounce effect, it's different than a plastic ball.
Plus that the ball always seem to fall quickly in your gameplay, in real soccer matches the ball would fly for 2.8 - 3.3 seconds if shot from a goal kick, in my update it takes 2.7, in your update it takes 2.3, which means that my update has it more real than yours, this is only one small comparison. I think that you have to re-set your ball physics and then keep comparing them to real football matches (make sure that the videos you download are not in fast motion).
Did you try playing your patch with a rainy weather? In your update I feel that the rain is just a picture out there, in my update I tried to imitate real ball hits on wet grass, the bounces must be way less, you didn't seem to care a lot about this aspect, in your patch even the ball rolling feels exactly the same wither it's raining or not, this is nothing as real soccer.
The other problem in your v5 ball physics is that the change you have made has changed even the passing speed, wither it's me or the CPU, the passes are always super fast, which again is unrealistic.
The idea of having a game to be only fun is slowly fading away, in our recent time people are looking for realism, for example, first-person games are becoming more realistic by making you die fast and using more strategy in them, compare counter strike to Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and you'll know what I mean.
Even soccer games have the same thing, they are becoming more strategic than just fun shooting and passing, slower games and more thinking is involved in new coming games, and that's what I like in the members of this forum, that most of them are aiming for realism more than fun, fun is an arcade theme, not PC or PS3 or Xbox 360 theme.
I hope that we can get the best out of Fifa 06 and the next versions of this game.
Peace!
I think that you got too used to your fast settings that it made mine seem slow, but seriously man, I'm 100% sure about what I'm saying, and if you need more explanation I can get you some videos and give you a small comparison between my update and yours, I'm just being real and honest.
Your v5 ball physics are good in some situations but, fast in many other situations, and the ball seems to bounce only 2 or 3 times, where in real soccer the ball bounces 5 or 6 and sometimes 7 times, because it is made from the inside of rubber which gives it the feel of bounce effect, it's different than a plastic ball.
Plus that the ball always seem to fall quickly in your gameplay, in real soccer matches the ball would fly for 2.8 - 3.3 seconds if shot from a goal kick, in my update it takes 2.7, in your update it takes 2.3, which means that my update has it more real than yours, this is only one small comparison. I think that you have to re-set your ball physics and then keep comparing them to real football matches (make sure that the videos you download are not in fast motion).
Did you try playing your patch with a rainy weather? In your update I feel that the rain is just a picture out there, in my update I tried to imitate real ball hits on wet grass, the bounces must be way less, you didn't seem to care a lot about this aspect, in your patch even the ball rolling feels exactly the same wither it's raining or not, this is nothing as real soccer.
The other problem in your v5 ball physics is that the change you have made has changed even the passing speed, wither it's me or the CPU, the passes are always super fast, which again is unrealistic.
The idea of having a game to be only fun is slowly fading away, in our recent time people are looking for realism, for example, first-person games are becoming more realistic by making you die fast and using more strategy in them, compare counter strike to Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and you'll know what I mean.
Even soccer games have the same thing, they are becoming more strategic than just fun shooting and passing, slower games and more thinking is involved in new coming games, and that's what I like in the members of this forum, that most of them are aiming for realism more than fun, fun is an arcade theme, not PC or PS3 or Xbox 360 theme.
I hope that we can get the best out of Fifa 06 and the next versions of this game.
Peace!
nickclubman
Starting XI
sa33ood said:NK, I'm sorry man if I was being honest, but I think that I'm absolutely right... I've re checked the videos again and again, then compared them to my v2.5 gameplay and your v5 and I found out that I have almost perfect ball physics, I mean by perfect that they imitate real world ball hits, resistance and bounces.
I think that you got too used to your fast settings that it made mine seem slow, but seriously man, I'm 100% sure about what I'm saying, and if you need more explanation I can get you some videos and give you a small comparison between my update and yours, I'm just being real and honest.
Your v5 ball physics are good in some situations but, fast in many other situations, and the ball seems to bounce only 2 or 3 times, where in real soccer the ball bounces 5 or 6 and sometimes 7 times, because it is made from the inside of rubber which gives it the feel of bounce effect, it's different than a plastic ball.
Plus that the ball always seem to fall quickly in your gameplay, in real soccer matches the ball would fly for 2.8 - 3.3 seconds if shot from a goal kick, in my update it takes 2.7, in your update it takes 2.3, which means that my update has it more real than yours, this is only one small comparison. I think that you have to re-set your ball physics and then keep comparing them to real football matches (make sure that the videos you download are not in fast motion).
Did you try playing your patch with a rainy weather? In your update I feel that the rain is just a picture out there, in my update I tried to imitate real ball hits on wet grass, the bounces must be way less, you didn't seem to care a lot about this aspect, in your patch even the ball rolling feels exactly the same wither it's raining or not, this is nothing as real soccer.
The other problem in your v5 ball physics is that the change you have made has changed even the passing speed, wither it's me or the CPU, the passes are always super fast, which again is unrealistic.
The idea of having a game to be only fun is slowly fading away, in our recent time people are looking for realism, for example, first-person games are becoming more realistic by making you die fast and using more strategy in them, compare counter strike to Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and you'll know what I mean.
Even soccer games have the same thing, they are becoming more strategic than just fun shooting and passing, slower games and more thinking is involved in new coming games, and that's what I like in the members of this forum, that most of them are aiming for realism more than fun, fun is an arcade theme, not PC or PS3 or Xbox 360 theme.
I hope that we can get the best out of Fifa 06 and the next versions of this game.
Peace!
I know what you mean about the glide and the hanging around, but remember that what makes a big difference here is the size of a real football pitch and the size of a pitch in fifa 06.
The ball has longer to travel in reality, thus lasting longer in the air. In your update it's simply because it is forced to, almost run (by what seems to be) set timers that you have got yourself from personal video observations.
I can see your point, I have already improved the physics. The main issue here is the difficulty of the update.
NK.