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CL: Fenerbahçe - PSV Eindhoven (R)
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Ny8La8
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Listen, Fener won a CL game. Done-deal.
Give the lads credit and stop the hating on Turks/Turkiye. Very immature and classless.
Give the lads credit and stop the hating on Turks/Turkiye. Very immature and classless.
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Callum
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turkish people are insane, no wonder they wont win their euro bid, at least for the sake of the world.
and for the fener supporters:
and for the fener supporters:
TheBlueBalla
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Jesus christ, calm the fuck down 
Just enjoy your win as has been said and stop ripping on the whole world just because some people dont think highly of your team. If I started responding to everyone who ripped on Chelsea on this site, thats all I would have time for
You want people to comment with knowledge and respect? I have to question your knowledge about English, oh, Im sorry "British" football with the responses that you have given. With your horribly inaccurate assessment of the Englsh game based upon ONE TEAM I would venture to say "the guy" knows alot more about Fener than you do about the confederate Real Madrid or whatever team you seem to think he follows. And seriously, where does your riddiculous hatred for ManYoo come from? Maybe some bitter embers left over from last year?serhat09 said:
When you act so brashly and angrily as this, can you blame people for trying to stir you up? That just sounds like the comment of an arrogant, ignorant, racist piece of trashserhat09 said:
Just enjoy your win as has been said and stop ripping on the whole world just because some people dont think highly of your team. If I started responding to everyone who ripped on Chelsea on this site, thats all I would have time for
aytacyolas
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PSVFOREVER said:
well mate, I hope we beat Schalke
If we play like this, it'll not be so hard to beat them.We just gotta prevent Kuranhi from scoring.The Danish guy is also dangerous (i think his name is larsen?).for PSV, they lost their best players after last year's success.I wasn't expecting them to play that bad though.I think you guys should get some good defensive midfielder and a striker.Beasley sucks imo.But your defense is good, alex is a great player.
if we can beat Schalke twice, or at least get 4 points in two matches, it'll be a struggle between Fener and PSV for the 2nd place.
Fener_Bahce
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Callum said:turkish people are insane, no wonder they wont win their euro bid, at least for the sake of the world.
and for the fener supporters:
Ya we are insane, we didn't win euro bid, not for the sake of the world, but for the sake of losers like you, if you talked like this in person I'd beat you with a turkish flag wrapped around my head.
Here's a better picture of that loser rooney...
TheBlueBalla said:Jesus christ, calm the fuck down
You want people to comment with knowledge and respect? I have to question your knowledge about English, oh, Im sorry "British" football with the responses that you have given. With your horribly inaccurate assessment of the Englsh game based upon ONE TEAM I would venture to say "the guy" knows alot more about Fener than you do about the confederate Real Madrid or whatever team you seem to think he follows. And seriously, where does your riddiculous hatred for ManYoo come from? Maybe some bitter embers left over from last year?
When you act so brashly and angrily as this, can you blame people for trying to stir you up? That just sounds like the comment of an arrogant, ignorant, racist piece of trash
Just enjoy your win as has been said and stop ripping on the whole world just because some people dont think highly of your team. If I started responding to everyone who ripped on Chelsea on this site, thats all I would have time for
Horribly Inaccurate assessment? Manchester United has been one of the most underachieving, "Big Name" sides in europe right now. That is NOT an inaccurate assessment, considering their league position last year was abysmal. 3rd place...doesn't sound so bad does it?... but 18 points behind the 1rst place team sounds REALLY bad. Considering their poor showing in the CL last year, and even now.
Chelsea was a disgrace, for a team that spent over 74 million pounds when Abramovich took over, and over 50 million pounds this year, not to mention the deals in between seasons, so you basically have the same budget as Dubai, and yet you couldn't win the CL. A team with half the budget did. i guess I should take it back, "english" football isn't totally a disgrace, considering we had the best final in CL history thanks to Liverpool, but do the ends in this case justify the means? Manchester United had a poor showing in Europe, along with Chelsea (considering their endless budget, all star team and talented coach), and Arsenal. And who knew that Liverpool in the end would stick out of the crop. They play one of the most exciting football styles i've seen, next to PSV's last year. So i take it back, the big name teams in england suck, only Liverpool is awesome.
I just hate how cocky you guys act though, not all of you, but some of you. Just the way you prance like your football is so superior, and how great the premiership is, but have only produced CL winners TWICE in the last 20 years, and the UEFA cup only ONCE in the last 20 years, in fact, if you look at the last 20 years, Liverpool has been the most successful "english" club in europe. Yet, i've NEVER bashed Liverpool, you may be saying right now you insulted the whole english league, this is true. But i do take it back, it is more correct of me to say, I think the top teams in england are a disgrace, EXCEPT Liverpool. The rest of the top clubs are a complete disgrace, considering the money, the history, the reputation they have, the chairman like abramovic, the star players, the wage budgets, i mean, 2 winners in the CL in the last 20 years? That's brutal.
All coming from a league that used to dominate europe in the 70's. Damn. that's a while back.
I guess its smart what Abramovich is doing, he's a crook, and what better way to get rid of dirty money, than to buy a football club and splurge money every year, i'd hate to see Chelsea when he's done with football.
Italian football will always be superior and so will the Spanish and the Germans aren't too shabby either.
Italians: 6 CL in the last 20 years.
8 UEFA Cups in the last 20 years.
Spanish: 4 CL in the last 20 years.
3 UEFA Cups in the last 20 years.
Germans: 2 CL in the last 20 years
3 UEFA Cups in the last 20 years.
It's like you get your cheap thrills insulting smaller teams like Fenerbahce, cause you just can't really insult the bigger teams. It's hilarious. I guess the arguement "Pick on someone your own size" just doesn't apply to some of you.
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Ny8La8
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serhat09 said:Horribly Inaccurate assessment? Manchester United has been one of the most underachieving, "Big Name" sides in europe right now. That is NOT an inaccurate assessment, considering their league position last year was abysmal. 3rd place...doesn't sound so bad does it?... but 18 points behind the 1rst place team sounds REALLY bad. Considering their poor showing in the CL last year, and even now.
Chelsea was a disgrace, for a team that spent over 74 million pounds when Abramovich took over, and over 50 million pounds this year, not to mention the deals in between seasons, so you basically have the same budget as Dubai, and yet you couldn't win the CL. A team with half the budget did. i guess I should take it back, "english" football isn't totally a disgrace, considering we had the best final in CL history thanks to Liverpool, but do the ends in this case justify the means? Manchester United had a poor showing in Europe, along with Chelsea (considering their endless budget, all star team and talented coach), and Arsenal. And who knew that Liverpool in the end would stick out of the crop. They play one of the most exciting football styles i've seen, next to PSV's last year. So i take it back, the big name teams in england suck, only Liverpool is awesome.
I just hate how cocky you guys act though, not all of you, but some of you. Just the way you prance like your football is so superior, and how great the premiership is, but have only produced CL winners TWICE in the last 20 years, and the UEFA cup only ONCE in the last 20 years, in fact, if you look at the last 20 years, Liverpool has been the most successful "english" club in europe. Yet, i've NEVER bashed Liverpool, you may be saying right now you insulted the whole english league, this is true. But i do take it back, it is more correct of me to say, I think the top teams in england are a disgrace, EXCEPT Liverpool. The rest of the top clubs are a complete disgrace, considering the money, the history, the reputation they have, the chairman like abramovic, the star players, the wage budgets, i mean, 2 winners in the CL in the last 20 years? That's brutal.
All coming from a league that used to dominate europe in the 70's. Damn. that's a while back.
I guess its smart what Abramovich is doing, he's a crook, and what better way to get rid of dirty money, than to buy a football club and splurge money every year, i'd hate to see Chelsea when he's done with football.
Italian football will always be superior and so will the Spanish and the Germans aren't too shabby either.
Italians: 6 CL in the last 20 years.
8 UEFA Cups in the last 20 years.
Spanish: 4 CL in the last 20 years.
3 UEFA Cups in the last 20 years.
Germans: 2 CL in the last 20 years
3 UEFA Cups in the last 20 years.
It's like you get your cheap thrills insulting smaller teams like Fenerbahce, cause you just can't really insult the bigger teams. It's hilarious. I guess the arguement "Pick on someone your own size" just doesn't apply to some of you.
oh man, GREAT post serhat! You took the words out of my mouth and everyone elses mouths who can't stand the obnoxious premiership worshippers! wow you just owned every england/premiership supporter out there! i'm so happy i'm not one of them at this moment. LoL!Watch them reply with a COMPLETELY irrelevant "come back". I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the show. :corn:
PS: I love the way you ended your post with Tuncay's pic.
Thanks man, but this isn't a win or lose arguement. This is a statistics presentation. Not once would i ever compare Fenerbahce and a British team, nor an Italian Team, or a Spanish or a German. I know where Fenerbahce's place is in europe right now, and its' not very high. But i can admit it, but I can also admit that at least my team has shown improvement and is becoming more prestigious every year at the least.
Fener_Bahce
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Man f*ck the premiership, I could watch the NHL and get the same sort of gameplay.
English league and national team is the most over rated in the world.
Italian and spanish leagues are real leagues to talk about.
English league and national team is the most over rated in the world.
Italian and spanish leagues are real leagues to talk about.
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Callum
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lol.
Fener_Bahce
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Callum said:
good insight. Are there not any baseball forums you could join???
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Callum
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Fener_Bahce said:
Im not american
you turkish people are amusing.
TheBlueBalla
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1. Chelsea killed on the way to the league title winning it comfortably, and that you consider shameful given the 18 point gap over third place, yet it was a disgrace that they also didnt win the Champions League? So essentially they should win every competition in which they are entered, despite other teams having better pedigrees and higher wage bills? So I guess the real disgrace (the one that was wasted by 18 points on the way to the title, and knocked out of the club competition in which Chelsea, the team that dominated them domestically, finished "disgracefully") here is Manchester United. Wait a second: that was the team that RIPPED fener at home with a squad including Kleberson and Bellion.serhat09 said:
Well, I guess by that logic:
> Chelsea > Man U >>>>> Fener2. Liverpool play one of the most exciting styles youve ever known?
If by that you mean their comeback in the final as a "style" then ok, but anyone who has seen their league form or performances this year knows better. You must not watch all that much "British" football3. Its a well known fact that the limitations on foreigners playing for teams in the CL hurt English sides more than teams like Ajax and Italian clubs who were composed mainly of players of like nationality. This flaw is pretty minor, though, when compared with the fact that after Heysel, English teams, not British ones, had a self imposed ban from European play for 5 years. So in reality, your arbitrary window of 20 years includes 5 years in which not a single english team could even take part. Way to go.
4. For someone who seemed to be creaming his drawers at the prospect of Abramovich taking over his club 6 months ago, you sure have changed your tune on him. Also, do you have the first clue about his business dealings or anything related to his finances? Because the Russian government hasnt yet been able to nail him down for it, but they could probably really use your insider input.
5. So Spanish football will always be superior? No spanish side made it out of the round of 16 last year. Italian football will always be superior? 2 of 3 Spanish sides were dropped by Liverpool last year. They have the better pedigree of success over your arbitrary period of the last 2 decades, but make it 25 and watch those numbers change dramatically.
Italian sides have generally had a better go of it because they are more tactically rigid, per the requirements for success in their domestic league.
6. Other English clubs are a "compelete disgrace"? Well, how did it feel to have your team absolutely demolished by a "complete disgrace" last year, after shooting their mouthes off about how their opposition wernt so tough. Face facts: Liverpool are, historically, a European powerhouse and are now enjoying a revival. In 2 years of having then spending power of a big club, Chelsea has gotten to the CL semi finals twice. Manchester United have a pedigree of domestic success in the "british league" thats almost unmatched by any other domestic side in Europe. Arsenal have their troubles in Europe, but they are still an excellent side, they, like all these "disgraceful" English teams have achieved more than Fener in this competition on which you place so much emphasis regarding a teams worth, and like PSV, which began this whole argument, I would pick them to win a one off with your team. You remember PSV, right? They were the side that nearly made it to the final last year, and they won it in the late 80's. And since performance in the Champions League over the last 20 years clearly determines how able a team is to perform this year, they clearly shouldve beaten Fenerbache.
7. Nobody was being cocky about anything English until you started shooting off your mouth about how terrible "british" football was.
8. You fener fans (I dont stereotype all turks, or fans of the turkish league, because im not an idiot) have a gigantic chip on your shoulder. Someone comes into a thread, says the slightest thing to upset you, and you go stir crazy and start shooting off your mouths about things which you clearly have little to no idea. I could justify saying any league was complete sh*t if I twisted every fact at my disposal just the way I wanted it.
Grow up, and move on. Cant you people see youre just being stirred up to give people a laugh? Id expect your reply to this post will further that even more.
Fener_Bahce
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Bobby said:
aha aha you're sig is sooo funny, and clever! keep it up!
Fener_Bahce
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TheBlueBalla said:1. Chelsea killed on the way to the league title winning it comfortably, and that you consider shameful given the 18 point gap over third place, yet it was a disgrace that they also didnt win the Champions League? So essentially they should win every competition in which they are entered, despite other teams having better pedigrees and higher wage bills? So I guess the real disgrace (the one that was wasted by 18 points on the way to the title, and knocked out of the club competition in which Chelsea, the team that dominated them domestically, finished "disgracefully") here is Manchester United. Wait a second: that was the team that RIPPED fener at home with a squad including Kleberson and Bellion.
Well, I guess by that logic:
2. Liverpool play one of the most exciting styles youve ever known?
3. Its a well known fact that the limitations on foreigners playing for teams in the CL hurt English sides more than teams like Ajax and Italian clubs who were composed mainly of players of like nationality. This flaw is pretty minor, though, when compared with the fact that after Heysel, English teams, not British ones, had a self imposed ban from European play for 5 years. So in reality, your arbitrary window of 20 years includes 5 years in which not a single english team could even take part. Way to go.
4. For someone who seemed to be creaming his drawers at the prospect of Abramovich taking over his club 6 months ago, you sure have changed your tune on him. Also, do you have the first clue about his business dealings or anything related to his finances? Because the Russian government hasnt yet been able to nail him down for it, but they could probably really use your insider input.
5. So Spanish football will always be superior? No spanish side made it out of the round of 16 last year. Italian football will always be superior? 2 of 3 Spanish sides were dropped by Liverpool last year. They have the better pedigree of success over your arbitrary period of the last 2 decades, but make it 25 and watch those numbers change dramatically.
Italian sides have generally had a better go of it because they are more tactically rigid, per the requirements for success in their domestic league.
6. Other English clubs are a "compelete disgrace"? Well, how did it feel to have your team absolutely demolished by a "complete disgrace" last year, after shooting their mouthes off about how their opposition wernt so tough. Face facts: Liverpool are, historically, a European powerhouse and are now enjoying a revival. In 2 years of having then spending power of a big club, Chelsea has gotten to the CL semi finals twice. Manchester United have a pedigree of domestic success in the "british league" thats almost unmatched by any other domestic side in Europe. Arsenal have their troubles in Europe, but they are still an excellent side, they, like all these "disgraceful" English teams have achieved more than Fener in this competition on which you place so much emphasis regarding a teams worth, and like PSV, which began this whole argument, I would pick them to win a one off with your team. You remember PSV, right? They were the side that nearly made it to the final last year, and they won it in the late 80's. And since performance in the Champions League over the last 20 years clearly determines how able a team is to perform this year, they clearly shouldve beaten Fenerbache.
7. Nobody was being cocky about anything English until you started shooting off your mouth about how terrible "british" football was.
8. You fener fans (I dont stereotype all turks, or fans of the turkish league, because im not an idiot) have a gigantic chip on your shoulder. Someone comes into a thread, says the slightest thing to upset you, and you go stir crazy and start shooting off your mouths about things which you clearly have little to no idea. I could justify saying any league was complete sh*t if I twisted every fact at my disposal just the way I wanted it.
Grow up, and move on. Cant you people see youre just being stirred up to give people a laugh? Id expect your reply to this post will further that even more.
1. Who ripped Fenerbahce at home last year? I didn't think you would consider a loss of 3-0 as being ripped. Ya man u killed Fenerbahce last season in england, but lost 3-0 in Turkiye. Is that the game you're talking about? If so get your facts straight, stop trying to act intelligent, it's really not working.
2. I think serhat09 does watch enough EPL, it's hard to sit through a game that absolutely butchers football, but we do manage.
3. Now you're blaming under achieving on the stupidity of your fans? Good arguement.
4. Ya Abramovich is deff. not involved in dirty money, because the Russian gov't hasn't found him guilty of anything yet. The Russian gov't does a great job of stopping organized crime, so Abramovich MUST be innocent, even the russian gov't hasn't caught on yet
What a strong arugment.5. Stop altering the argument, serhat09 didn't say anything about liverpool. He cut down man u and other english clubs, an italian team knocked man u out, remember? Milan? And like serhat09 said, take a look at the last 20 years if you want to compare the spanish, italian, or even german league to the
EPL.7. Actually ppl were being cocky, go read back before you post. Actually when comparing a whole league's success to another's, using the last 20 years is a great way to do it. Not teams individually though, he's comparing the whole leagues.
8. We all know the english league is better than the turkish league, but we dont enter forums after man u losses or wins and post stupid comments. This was a harmless forum, and before you point fingers at us go look back to who all started this.