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Pes5/we9

Aquadark

Youth Team
Improved gameplay and physics - we don't need cosmetic changes, we need better passing and shooting system, better net and ball physics, even more realistic player movement, better AI and refs, better netcode and online mode... I don't think it's necessary to go on with the list. But maybe a stand-alone PC editor with the feature to add whole new leagues and edit everything in the game.
 

Socrates

Starting XI
They need to make the gameplay better should be number 1 on thier list. The defence and keeper should be smarter, seriosuly sometimes the defence is dumbfounded by a through pass:| they either stop when the ball is coming and let it roll past em or they turn back and start running the other way :nape: They keeper are just idiots at times. I wanna also see more freeflowing pass like the one from football kingdom, also the ability to curve shots on your own, and curve passes to. Make the game much harder.
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
Aquadark said:
Improved gameplay and physics - we don't need cosmetic changes, we need better passing and shooting system, better net and ball physics, even more realistic player movement, better AI and refs, better netcode and online mode... I don't think it's necessary to go on with the list. But maybe a stand-alone PC editor with the feature to add whole new leagues and edit everything in the game.


Spot on. I think the gameplay is the most important for me. People go on about Fifa being crap because of the scripting. I agree the scripting makes that game very frustrating, but I also find the scripting frustrating in PES. Eg and this is just one example, when the oponent has the ball and I try to position or move my player to the best position to tackle/shepherd there is scripting which makes him resist for long enough to put my defender at a disadvantage. He may try to run towards the ball but the best position is to aim him toward where the attacker is going with the ball, the scripting makes this difficult even though I am controlling the player. So improving player movement for one would immensly improve this game
 

MightyTic

Senior Squad
Improved gameplay and physics


I would love to see them in PES5 , but you won't see any real change until 2006 when they have the power of the PS3 to work with.
 

MightyTic

Senior Squad
Something I'd like to see changed if possible? extend the proximity of change of controlled player(s).

Example: I use manual control to change the player I want to control, but I find that when a cpu player gets the ball say 25yrds out from his own box, out wide right or left and my 2 forwards are in about the middle of the park same distance out! When the cpu player charges up the to the hafl way line with the ball, I want to bring my midfielder or fullback out to challenge him. But I can't , for when I click the shoulder pad to highlight a player I want, the icon just jumps between my 2 forwards as the are the only players in that half of the park.

It really is annoying when that happens , there are many more examples of it, I just wish konami would do something about it.
 

simakperrce

Reserve Team
Aquadark said:
Improved gameplay and physics - we don't need cosmetic changes, we need better passing and shooting system, better net and ball physics, even more realistic player movement, better AI and refs, better netcode and online mode... I don't think it's necessary to go on with the list. But maybe a stand-alone PC editor with the feature to add whole new leagues and edit everything in the game.

Seconded. Agreed. Signed. Spot on.

Especially the last part. Write a PC version for the love of god. Make use of the PCs advantages. Give us some dev kits. The ability to tweak and mod it. And I am not talking damn boot colors or Nike footballs. Physics, AI, Deflections, Behavior.

I know, nothing of that will happen, but I am dreaming.
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
MightyTic said:
Something I'd like to see changed if possible? extend the proximity of change of controlled player(s).

Example: I use manual control to change the player I want to control, but I find that when a cpu player gets the ball say 25yrds out from his own box, out wide right or left and my 2 forwards are in about the middle of the park same distance out! When the cpu player charges up the to the hafl way line with the ball, I want to bring my midfielder or fullback out to challenge him. But I can't , for when I click the shoulder pad to highlight a player I want, the icon just jumps between my 2 forwards as the are the only players in that half of the park.

It really is annoying when that happens , there are many more examples of it, I just wish konami would do something about it.


Absolutely agree and this is an important point, the need to switch to any player you wish and I cant see why it cant be implemented, but its the same in Fifa too which I also play.
 

the twin

Club Supporter
Referees- not that important, but PES 5/WE9 could be maybe the first soccer game to have referees with whistles! In most games you can hear the whistles, but when you look at the ref he is just standing there. Also, add a few varied animations for cards and whatnot.

Also, better looking kits

Linesman running the touchline and signalling.

Improve some of the pitch textures

use the power bar for goal kicks.

OVERARM KEEPER THROW- can't be too hard, fifa has done it since at least an extremely long way back

Improve the edit mode

Better kits for the international teams
 

Moratti1

Reserve Team
A cool possible feature for master league I would like to see is the option of choosing the venue for both Wefa Finals prior to the season beginning.
 

PIPEÑO

Youth Team
Personally I want some stuff people rarely mention.
I'd like music to play like FIFA's, that meaning no music for an specific area only, but music for the whole game, and you can play them randomly or make your own order.

Oh, and I absolutely loved WE8LE music. I hope they follow the same line.
And I hope they go back in a future to a WE6FE style interface, colourful menus, some eye-candy you know. WE7 and WE8's haven't nice on the eyes at all.
 

DryHeat

Club Supporter
Pes for the last 2 years has been held back by the PS2.

There is no hardrive and the PS2 only has 32 mb memory and 8mb memory card.

IF konami improve the graphics they would then have to sacrifice number of teams/A.I. If the PS2 had a hardrive they could easily add as many teams they want, and use the hard drive as cache. They could easily do this for the XBOX and the PC version.

Things which could easily be fixed for PS2 version:
1) Power bar for goal kicks and throws, 1 press for height and 2 press for length.

2) Option of power bar for through balls. If you hold the button for a second a
power bar will appear. If you just press it normally you would get the standard through ball.

3) Option of power bar for passes using left stick. If you hold the button for a second a power bar will appear. If you just press it normally you would get the normal pass.

4) Improve manual cross. In PES4 you only get 1 height. They could use the sensible soccer/kick off aproach.

5) Power bar for throwins 1st press for height and 2nd press for power.

6) Fix the heading system. heading in PES is a joke. You have no control on when you jump, heigh of header, power of header and even direction of header especially for clearances.

7) Fix the slide tackle system. You should be able to control or at least affect the direction the ball wil go after a tackle. In anco's kick off if you reversed the stick after a slide tackly your player would keep hold of the ball after a slide tackle.

8) Stamina bar for the game. The faster you go the less stamina you get. This would stop people taking one fast player and running around the pitch at top speed for minutes. This should then allow konami to stop using speed cheating for the cpu player such as John Terry catching up with Henry who is ten meters away.

9) Stop player jumping/kicking/heading the ball without you pressing a button. This has got worse with each release of PES, konami thinks this is gameplay when it is infact a bug.

10) Update the tactics system. You should be ablt to select which players go up for or defending corners and freekicks like CM4.

PC version:
1) Linesmen/Manager/Physio
2) Add as many teams/players you want.
3) Longer replays.
4) Select your own music for the game. Save money by not using music most people don't ;listen to.
5) Season builder like CM4.
6) Real time lighting for stadiums from sunset to sunrise.
 

ibo

Senior Squad
i dont care about ****** licences... plz stop with this.. in less than 2 minutes you can install an optionfile with ALL player names and ALL team names corrected. or a wolfs patch does this job well, too. inclusive ALL kits ALL faces ALL everything.

Konami.. for gods sake.. save money and improve gameplay, graphics or sound but plz dont go the way EA is going since the 99 version.
 


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