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FC Porto Thread
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MaSsiVe said:
Well, if that's how deep the search for new players boils down to, then I think it's a miracle we got so many titles in recent years.
God, I just hope Barcelona doesn't show any interest for Abel Xavier.
About the dutch players that may come to Porto:
Landzaat - too old and why on earth would a portuguese team buy MIDFIELDERS anyway??? Don't we have plenty of that here already?
VdV - He would only hurt our team. We already have enough midfielders who can't or won't defend. Quaresma+Diego+VdV+Postiga=7 men defense= losses (and we don't know if Lucho works his ass on defense...).
Krompkamp - 15M is way too much for a defender, at least for Porto standards. How much money was Juve ready to put forth for Miguel?
I hope Adriaanse doesn't come already with requests for (expensive) Dutch players. He has enough quantity and quality over here. We don't need more players - apart from a decent RB, LB and striker; what we need is someone capable of injecting confidence into this young team and building a solid gameplay.
EDIT: Meira for 5M? Wtf!?
mhflierman
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Van der Vaart will not go to Porto. He's already agreed terms with HSV, only the clubs have to work it out. And let me tell you, they will. Ajax want money, HSV want Van der Vaart --> done deal.
AZ's president needs to be mentally treated if he thinks Krompkamp is going to fetch 15m. There's no club on earth willing to pay that kind of money for a RB from a club who's won nothing, in an arguably "once in every lifetime" season.
Adriaanse is a good coach, he can make players better and he's the master of having his team play in patterns. On the other hand he's not too good with the press, and as far as I've come to understood Porto's president is a bit of bitch. I'm a bit worried how those two strong characters will work besides each other.
AZ's president needs to be mentally treated if he thinks Krompkamp is going to fetch 15m. There's no club on earth willing to pay that kind of money for a RB from a club who's won nothing, in an arguably "once in every lifetime" season.
Adriaanse is a good coach, he can make players better and he's the master of having his team play in patterns. On the other hand he's not too good with the press, and as far as I've come to understood Porto's president is a bit of bitch. I'm a bit worried how those two strong characters will work besides each other.
INFESTA said:
Last thing I heard we were willing to pay 7M for him, while Valencia sticks to their bid of 5M
btw Just heard Adriaanse wants Park from PSV...
btw2 About the Meira rumour: don't we have Bosingwa, Meireles and (soon) Sandro for that position?
Meira would only be thrown away money
Bonzi that's ok, the next coach will probably be portuguese too (Vitor Pontes, ex-Leiria) 
INFESTA I agree with you when saying Landzaat is too old, but age doesn't always tell if a player's going to be useful or not.
He only comes if Co really wants him, because this interest didn't come up because of PdC I believe.
Kromkamp definitely is too expensive, 5 Million € would be good enough, yeah...
I also think Meira coming for 5M would not be expensive, the thing is we just don't need him.
As you've said we should basically focus on buying a few players and try to put confidence on the ones we have, the talent is there right?
Although you speak in LB and a Striker, and I actally think that with N.Valente and Leandro we'll be fine (yeah I know you hate Leandro, but I like his game
).
and a striker...what for? We have Postiga, H. Almeida and Lisandro for sure, and it isn't sure that Benni will leave... if another one's needed we always have the B team to go fish on
mhflierman PdC has a strong character yes, but what to say about Mourinho's? They've worked together for 2 years and the success was evident, so I'm not worried with that.
Tajike where did you see about that Park rumour?
We really don't need to buy wingers: Quaresma, C.Peixoto, Ivanildo, Bruno Gama, Vieirinha...they are our future.
INFESTA I agree with you when saying Landzaat is too old, but age doesn't always tell if a player's going to be useful or not.
He only comes if Co really wants him, because this interest didn't come up because of PdC I believe.
Kromkamp definitely is too expensive, 5 Million € would be good enough, yeah...
I also think Meira coming for 5M would not be expensive, the thing is we just don't need him.
As you've said we should basically focus on buying a few players and try to put confidence on the ones we have, the talent is there right?
Although you speak in LB and a Striker, and I actally think that with N.Valente and Leandro we'll be fine (yeah I know you hate Leandro, but I like his game
).and a striker...what for? We have Postiga, H. Almeida and Lisandro for sure, and it isn't sure that Benni will leave... if another one's needed we always have the B team to go fish on
mhflierman PdC has a strong character yes, but what to say about Mourinho's? They've worked together for 2 years and the success was evident, so I'm not worried with that.
Tajike where did you see about that Park rumour?
We really don't need to buy wingers: Quaresma, C.Peixoto, Ivanildo, Bruno Gama, Vieirinha...they are our future.
MaSsiVe said:INFESTAAlthough you speak in LB and a Striker, and I actally think that with N.Valente and Leandro we'll be fine (yeah I know you hate Leandro, but I like his game
and a striker...what for? We have Postiga, H. Almeida and Lisandro for sure, and it isn't sure that Benni will leave... if another one's needed we always have the B team to go fish on
We need a striker IF Benni leaves. Why? Three reasons:
1- Postiga is good, but he's one of those streaky players, that can be awesome in consecutive games but then spend 3 months without scoring a goal.
2- H. Almeida can be useful in certain situations, but is too one-dimensional and needs the team to adapt to his characteristics (see Portugal's U21).
3- Lisandro... I don't know. He can be another Fabiano or another Crespo. Anyone has a clue about what he'll bring to the table?
About that Park rumour, I hope PdC doesn't buy into that 'I want this player' tactic. That rarely works out and all we're left with when the coach leaves the club is useless and expensive players (Note: see english players bought during Souness' spell...)
Besides, we all know coaches have secret partnerships with agents to promote certain players (and profit from it). It's usual here in Portugal, at least.
Leandro...
yagami said:
You're saying that they should be loaned to grow, is that it?
My opinion is that there's no better club to grow up tactically than their own.
See Quaresma and Ronaldo and now Moutinho with Sporting, M. Fernandes with Benfica...
We have to give the kids a chance, the club can't be always buying foreigners and look over our "cantera".
MaSsiVe said:
Heard it on the Porto forum
Just seen an interview of Adriaanse with the Dutch television:
Interviewer: "Are you planning to take some AZ-players with you to Porto?"
Adriaanse: "That could be. First I'm gonna do an analysis on the team and afterwards I'll see where we need reinforcements. Though it could be that I'm not buying players during the summer."
Somehow that brought a smile to my face
MaSsiVe said:
The Mística is made by having players of your own cantera playing! They have been in the club for long, were coached by some of the best Porto players ever - João Pinto, Domingos, etc. - who know what it takes to win, and above all have grown to love the club and the city. You can't expect that from a random brazilian or dutch or russian or whatever that just unpacked his bags!
Likewise, I, as a fan, prefer to see these kids wearing the jersey of my team because I know what they stand for!
I say give the kids a chance!
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Park isnt going to Porto for sure. He wont go to a team that isnt any better than PSV. If he leaves it will be to a top team in one of Europe's big leagues. (Besides the fact that Hiddink is at PSV is a reason for those Koreans to stay)
Porto fans.
I was wondering.
How well did Diego, Quaresma, Mccarthy, Seitaridis, Valente, Fabiano, Carlos Alberto and Maniche do this year?
I've seen Diego and he's a class player with lots of potential, has he done well in Portugal?
Quaresma i've also seen a lot of and has huge potential, from what I both hear and see though he seems a bit greedy, any predictions as to where he's gonna end up soon?
Mccarthy is a great player and I even hear Chelsea are in for him, he's done well then?
Seitaridis had a good Euro and seems steady from what i've seen when he's at Porto, a bit liable sometimes but mostly ok, is this the case?
Valente I was really impressed with in Euro and Porto's cup run a couple of seasons ago, how's he doin? Think he could move to a big team one day or isnt he THAT good?
I like Fabiano, I saw him in the copa america a while back and a few times when he played in Brazil, how did he do in his first season with Porto? Will he be there next season.
Carlos Alberto is a player I love to watch, really energetic and skillful and causes lots of problems, how did he do this year and as i ask about the others, will he be there next season? Has he progressed and moved on.
Maniche is a good player, a very good passer with the ball so I saw in last year's CL, and Euro. But on the very odd few occasions i've seen him this year he hasnt looked as sharp, but I hear he's off to MOSCOW of all places, just for money reasons if that's right then , he and Costinha really think it's worth goin there just for money? And will they even be in the CL next year? I havent seen much of Moscow. What's that situation?
So yea if anyone could tell me how any one of those players are doing, im interested to know as I do like all of them and love to watch all kinds of Football, I think it's interesting to see a player and wonder how he's gonna progress and maybe move on.
Like Quaresma, with the right coaching he could/could of been a class player, I hope he definately turns out to be.
So yea, thanks to who ever replys
I was wondering.
How well did Diego, Quaresma, Mccarthy, Seitaridis, Valente, Fabiano, Carlos Alberto and Maniche do this year?
I've seen Diego and he's a class player with lots of potential, has he done well in Portugal?
Quaresma i've also seen a lot of and has huge potential, from what I both hear and see though he seems a bit greedy, any predictions as to where he's gonna end up soon?
Mccarthy is a great player and I even hear Chelsea are in for him, he's done well then?
Seitaridis had a good Euro and seems steady from what i've seen when he's at Porto, a bit liable sometimes but mostly ok, is this the case?
Valente I was really impressed with in Euro and Porto's cup run a couple of seasons ago, how's he doin? Think he could move to a big team one day or isnt he THAT good?
I like Fabiano, I saw him in the copa america a while back and a few times when he played in Brazil, how did he do in his first season with Porto? Will he be there next season.
Carlos Alberto is a player I love to watch, really energetic and skillful and causes lots of problems, how did he do this year and as i ask about the others, will he be there next season? Has he progressed and moved on.
Maniche is a good player, a very good passer with the ball so I saw in last year's CL, and Euro. But on the very odd few occasions i've seen him this year he hasnt looked as sharp, but I hear he's off to MOSCOW of all places, just for money reasons if that's right then
, he and Costinha really think it's worth goin there just for money? And will they even be in the CL next year? I havent seen much of Moscow. What's that situation?So yea if anyone could tell me how any one of those players are doing, im interested to know as I do like all of them and love to watch all kinds of Football, I think it's interesting to see a player and wonder how he's gonna progress and maybe move on.
Like Quaresma, with the right coaching he could/could of been a class player, I hope he definately turns out to be.
So yea, thanks to who ever replys
Amdy Faye said:How well did Diego, Quaresma, Mccarthy, Seitaridis, Valente, Fabiano, Carlos Alberto and Maniche do this year?
I've seen Diego and he's a class player with lots of potential, has he done well in Portugal?
Quaresma i've also seen a lot of and has huge potential, from what I both hear and see though he seems a bit greedy, any predictions as to where he's gonna end up soon?
Mccarthy is a great player and I even hear Chelsea are in for him, he's done well then?
Seitaridis had a good Euro and seems steady from what i've seen when he's at Porto, a bit liable sometimes but mostly ok, is this the case?
Valente I was really impressed with in Euro and Porto's cup run a couple of seasons ago, how's he doin? Think he could move to a big team one day or isnt he THAT good?
I like Fabiano, I saw him in the copa america a while back and a few times when he played in Brazil, how did he do in his first season with Porto? Will he be there next season.
Carlos Alberto is a player I love to watch, really energetic and skillful and causes lots of problems, how did he do this year and as i ask about the others, will he be there next season? Has he progressed and moved on.
Maniche is a good player, a very good passer with the ball so I saw in last year's CL, and Euro. But on the very odd few occasions i've seen him this year he hasnt looked as sharp, but I hear he's off to MOSCOW of all places, just for money reasons if that's right then
So yea if anyone could tell me how any one of those players are doing, im interested to know as I do like all of them and love to watch all kinds of Football, I think it's interesting to see a player and wonder how he's gonna progress and maybe move on.
Like Quaresma, with the right coaching he could/could of been a class player, I hope he definately turns out to be.
So yea, thanks to who ever replys
Ok, here's my personal view on those players' season:
- Diego: so-so season, mostly because he needed his time to adjust to a new country and a completely different style of play. Still has a lot to learn, but his end of season gave us all hope.
- Quaresma: huger potential, but wastes it by not using his head most of the time. We've seen moments of brilliance during the past year but, come on, he should be so much better! Just look at his ManU pal Ronaldo; when both kids played in Sporting Quaresma had by far the most recognition. Our new coach may help him blossom.
- Mccarthy: solid season, I'd like him to stay here, but will likely move to Chelsea. Honestly, I think the Blues could get a better striker for the money they'll probably pay Porto.
- Seitaridis: more comfortable playing for Greece than with a Porto jersey, but you got to look at the fact that he's in a different country, playing in a different league altogether. Several injuries didn't help him either. Was way better in the end of the season. Still, a solid first season - and last, since he's moving to Russia.
- Valente spent most of the season injured. That sucks because our reserve LBs are ****e. Hope to see him healthy next season.
- Fabiano: he scored 3 goals this season, despite having played in most games. Amdy Faye, if you pay me half the money he's getting I promise you I'll deliver at least 6 goals. No kidding.
- Carlos Alberto: was shipped to Brazil in the Winter transfer window because he was being a Carlos*ass on and off the field. He has a lot of talent, which only makes the case worse.
- Maniche: he was either injured or saving himself for next season, as he knew he'd be playing for a different club. I think he destroyed the rest of his career by moving to Russia.
- Costinha: he's not going to Russia for the lovely weather either, but in his case I can accept it: he's over 30yo now, and deserves to cash in before retiring.
- Finally, if I may call your attention to a new player, Ibson, whom we consider our biggest revelation of the season. I'm sure you'll hear of him plenty.
i am not saying that they should be loaned
i am just saying that we should not put championship , LC and portugal cup on their shoulders. there should be older , experienced alterantives available.
ohh man , you are soo right ... I LOVE IBSON ... he plays really but really well , adjusted ... well , it was like he was born in porto !
and best of all , he looks always so humble , he never does serious tacles , never shouts at the refere ( mcarthy and fabiano and maniche could take some lessons )
ibson and diego and maybe bonfim , these brasilian guys rule !
ibson and diego really should always be on the starting lineup next season