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PES4 stats related with FM2005 characters 1 by 1,IMO

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thenerdgod

Club Supporter
based on early testing with the teams you edited, I think your formulas are better than Yannick. Now if only Yannick will be kind enough to follow your formulas then we would be able to have an overall perfect OF for ML :)
 
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pronewbie

Youth Team
Good job on the players you edited. Bad thing is that there are unedited players floating about... Game is much more realistic and less pacey. Good job Pubb.

Edit: I think you need to come up with a new formula to calculate a sideback's attack...
 
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pubb

Youth Team
I just share my work here. I play with it.

And, the option file I uploaded included an additional team I didn't mentioned before: Real Betis.

For the SB's attacking problem, that's too complex for me. Hope Yannick will have a try based on his current formulas. He has just annouced v1.11 for WE:LE at his homepage, not haveing touched the convertion formulas. A pity.
 
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RSCA-boy

Youth Team
scoham said:
There is no proper way of getting shot power from FM, as its not in the game, apart from the PPMs you mentioned (Hits Free Kick With Power, Shoots Long, Shoots With Power), which would mean the player has a some power in their shooting.
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how about 'long shots'?
 
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pubb

Youth Team
I think The current formula for 'shoot power' is already a mixture of 'finishing' and 'long shots'. My suggestion is to make 2 different weights for FW and non-FW, since many FWs don't take long shots so they have low 'long shots' value.
When calculate FW, weighs 'finishing' more; and when non-FW, let 'long shots' have more affection.

Remaining default is not a good idea. It will make some unbalance.
 
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pubb

Youth Team
hehe,Maybe

And anybody knows how can I get that 'cache.dat' from FM2005 data files? FM2005 has upgraded to patch 5.0.5. Stats of some players have changed, such as Cafu's dribbling turned down to 16 instead of 18. Maybe more.
 
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pubb

Youth Team
Wanna add a 'work rate>14' condition when caculate 'reaction' because too many top scorers have both 'positioning' and 'reaction' such as Vieri and Adriano.

If enforced as I said, the following players will miss 'reaction':
Van Persie(Arsenal), Henry(Arsenal), Kezman(Chelsea), Kanoute(Hotspur), Totti(Roma), Karagounis(Inter), Vieri(Inter), Adriano(Inter), Klose(Bremen), Figo(R.Madrid), Solari(R.Madrid)

Do you agree or another suggestion for 'reaction'?
 
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pubb

Youth Team
clements said:
the higher value of the WB ability in FM could be added to the calculated value..

Cafu (49+20==>69)
Paulo Ferreira (56+10==>66)
Ashley Cole (53+20==>73)
Zambrotta (56+20==>76)
Robert Carlos (61+20==>81)
Belletti (58+15==>73)
J.Zanetti (53+20==>73)

just a very simple suggestion though :)
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I got this formula:
Code: 
    if WB>=15 then 'offence' += (WB + 'off the ball')/2;
    elseif WB>=10 then 'offence' += (WB + 'off the ball')/3;
For Wing Back value seems to be dispert, 10,15 and 20 takes the most of the positions.
Such are the new 'offence' for wing backs. And the value behind the '/' is the one in original settings:
Code: 
Finnan    64/70                 Riise    69/73
Josemi    68/68
Maldini    52/72                 Kaladez    68/63
Simic      55/60                 Cafu        68/80
J.Zanetti     71/81             Ze Maria   74/76
Zebina        62/58             Zambrotta    73/77
Belletti        73/74             Silvinho        71/78
Lauren        74/76             Ashley Cole   71/79
I think it can work but better recalculate the 'offence' as a whole.
By the way, I see no difference when I played as Barce vs Juventus after I changed the 'offence' for WBs for both sides.
 
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thenerdgod

Club Supporter
hi pubb maybe you can redo your position conversion to include CBT because right now in EditPES4OptionFile, Roberto Carlos, Salgado, etc is CBT by default!
 
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pubb

Youth Team
thenerdgod said:
hi pubb maybe you can redo your position conversion to include CBT because right now in EditPES4OptionFile, Roberto Carlos, Salgado, etc is CBT by default!
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I've fixed all of the positions for many teams including R.Madrid in the option file that I uploaded before.
And I believe Yannick is one of the best programmers who can tweak his own formulas. I just show my opinion in some examples.
 
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thenerdgod

Club Supporter
Obviously he won't implement some of your suggestions but maybe if you can come out with a complete position formula for all positions, he may look at it!
 
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