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[DOWNLOAD] Classic Patch 14

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GIGGIRIVA

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
V.K said:
From what I understand, all squads are set as of the end of the European season (after winter transfers, but before summer transfers) so for example Fernando Torres will be in Chelsea 10-11 and not Liverpool 10-11 despite playing half the season for Liverpool.
Following this logic, Vagner Love was loaned to Flamengo in the winter of 09-10 so in theory he would be playing for the Flamengo 09-10 team and not CSKA 09-10, since he wasn't there in the spring, that's the rationale I had in mind.


Don't know about others but personally I mostly play single exhibition matches and in this context it is an unpleasant surprise to when you realize you don't have any defenders/midfielders/strikers on the bench.
While I understand that it is impossible to ensure this for every of the hundreds of teams, I noticed this with Argentina 2018, fixed it for myself and thought it would be nice of me to report it to you - that's the logic here.
Also I swapped Caballero in goal, he started as many games as Armani but he was the original choice goalkeeper plus he has a scanned gameface.


For Russia 2018, Russia 2016, Russia 2012 and CSKA 09-10 I also changed substitutes and free kick/corner/penalty takers to what they really were (because naturally I followed those teams very closely), and again thought it was worth sharing with you (and the community) to make another little contribution to the common goal of authentic classics.


Before my original post I did specifically load 2.8 DBs to check and saw that many of what I reported to @ACICOG in November 2020 hasn't been updated, so I am duly taking into consideration the latest version of the DB (e.g. Raul is captain of Real Madrid 09-10 but is a substitute on the bench; Ronaldinho is on the bench for Barcelona 07-08 but he played more matches than anyone else as LW that season).
I can copy the reports here again here with statistics (and not just personal opinion) as proof.

For example why Chelsea 09-10 should be 4-3-3 instead of 4-1-2-1-2 (forgive quick Russian google translate):

(4-3-2-1 is naturally 4-3-3 in FIFA terms)

For Real Madrid 09-10 I should have updated my previous report (forgive funny Chinese google translate), (the above FIFA10 screenshot was for formation purposes only), that's the best representation of players based on stats :
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fixed the various russia and argentina. Chelsea, Real and CSKA remain this way. I apologize if I may sound rude but I don't chew English well and often certain tones can be misunderstood. Italian is a language that, depending on a comma or a word, completely changes the phatos of the thought expressed. I can't find the same balance in English. I apologize again.
 
V.K

V.K

Starting XI
GIGGIRIVA said:
Vagner love can stand. In the Russian league, a team that gets to play the European cups in the spring covers two seasons in Russia. This has always been a problem for us as to how or who to field. Vagner Love having played the 2009 and 2010 season covers the indicated period. It seems to me that we have Russian teams with double shirts from two different seasons in the same team. If I remember correctly. But I could be wrong.
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I know how it works. Before 2010s Russian league used to operate by the spring-to-autumn system.
Meaning that the champion in autumn 2001 would be in UCL group stage when it starts in autumn 2002.
Such teams had to make a roster for the UCL season and play the autumn-to-spring usual European system (the autumn (group stage) being simultaneously the end of one Russian season and the spring (playoffs) being the start of a new season - hence the 2 sets of kits).

But the thing I want to point out with transfers is that if such Vagner Love went to Barcelona instead of Flamengo in winter, he would appear on the Barcelona squad instead of CSKA for that season, right?
Real life example: Sergey Semak played the 2004-05 UCL group stage in CSKA but in winter signed for PSG, that means he can't be cloned in both CSKA 04-05 and PSG 04-05 and righfully so he isn't in CSKA 04-05.
Same with Arshavin who moved from Zenit to Arsenal Ronaldo Nazario and his winter move from Real Mardid to AC Milan - he is a Milan player in the patch.

I believe we'd better just judge Russian teams squads from that era by the UEFA season standards to keep in line with all other teams and transfers, so the rosters would be just like with any other club "as of the day of the UCL final".

GIGGIRIVA said:
I apologize if I may sound rude but I don't chew English well and often certain tones can be misunderstood.
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No hard feelings. Just trying to spend some free time to help improve the patch.
 
GIGGIRIVA

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
V.K said:
I know how it works. Before 2010s Russian league used to operate by the spring-to-autumn system.
Meaning that the champion in autumn 2001 would be in UCL group stage when it starts in autumn 2002.
Such teams had to make a roster for the UCL season and play the autumn-to-spring usual European system (the autumn (group stage) being simultaneously the end of one Russian season and the spring (playoffs) being the start of a new season - hence the 2 sets of kits).

But the thing I want to point out with transfers is that if such Vagner Love went to Barcelona instead of Flamengo in winter, he would appear on the Barcelona squad instead of CSKA for that season, right?
Real life example: Sergey Semak played the 2004-05 UCL group stage in CSKA but in winter signed for PSG, that means he can't be cloned in both CSKA 04-05 and PSG 04-05 and righfully so he isn't in CSKA 04-05.
Same with Arshavin who moved from Zenit to Arsenal Ronaldo Nazario and his winter move from Real Mardid to AC Milan - he is a Milan player in the patch.

I believe we'd better just judge Russian teams squads from that era by the UEFA season standards to keep in line with all other teams and transfers, so the rosters would be just like with any other club "as of the day of the UCL final".


No hard feelings. Just trying to spend some free time to help improve the patch.
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Exact. Had he been traded to a team in the game he would have gone there. Not having single season South American teams and not interfacing with the tournament then he can stay. Like Sinama Pongolle at Liverpool instead of Blackburn. If one day I added the Blackburn of that vintage Sinama Pongolle would be removed from the Livepool. In some cases it is possible to leave a player in a particular team.
 
Evgeninho69

Evgeninho69

Youth Team
GIGGIRIVA said:
Valerien Ismael



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@GIGGIRIVA I think this is one of your best works.
GIGGIRIVA said:
I tried to mix the various versions of Pizarro present on the VK site plus something of my own in addition. I don't know if I can put it in the patch. I don't know who made the original faces.

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And by the way in the Classic Patch also the face of Alessandro Gamberini with bump. Although there is a version without bump
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