Liga: 21
Copa del Rey: 25
European Cup / UEFA Champions League: 4
FIFA Club World Cup: 1
UEFA Super Cup: 3
Supercopa de España: 9
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 4
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup / UEFA Cup: 3
Latin Cup: 2
Pyrenees Cup: 4
Catalonia cup: 6
Catalonia Championship: 23
Catalan League: 1
Mediterranean League: 1
President: Sandro Rosell
Coach: Josep Guardiola
Assistant Coach: Tito Vilanova
Director of Football: Andoni Zubizaretta
I was beaten by Azrael in the Draft and so it logically follows that he knows more about football than I do, especially since he did not resort to cheating (of which I am guilty, as has been demonstrated)
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yeah, Alexis has made his preferred destination clear for a while, but the point is that Udinese are in the Champions League, and would only sell their stars if they can get a boat-load of cash for each in return (both for Champions League level replacements, and also in case they miss out on the lucrative Champions League revenue) ...
on that note, is there really any truth behind the rumours that David Villa may be shipped out? coz I've been reading these tabloidesque articles -- short stories here and there, in different languages -- that all talk about Barcelona trying to generate revenue to fund bids for either Kun or Giuseppe Rossi ... for the record, I'd prefer to see Kun join his mate Leo at Barça, with Roma fittingly going for Giuseppe Rossi ...
Villa won't move from Camp nou, all you read is bull****, Barça isn't interested in Kun. Alexis could be ours for 28m€+variables+Jonathan Soriano (32 goals in Liga Adelate, top scorer), apparently he has already told to his team mates that he is joining Barça. Bojan will be sold to Roma for 10m€ fee + a buy back clausule, same goes to Montoya.
Yeah, those Villa rumors really disturbed me too. I wouldn't believe it, but after Eto'o and Zlatan, who knows.
TBH, if what I've read about Barcelona's fanaticism over diet, training, fitness, and all that is true I don't think they should buy anyone. Outside stars just aren't going to give that kind of commitment when they're making so much money and their transfer fee is so high.
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exactly, there's a lot of bullsh!t rumours to sift through during silly season, but given the way Pep operates in the transfer market, nothing would surprise me ...
I'd still prefer to see what I said in my previous post ...
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Pep loves Villa, he's so humble. Eto'o and Zlatan get rid because they believe themselves more important than the team.
just coz Pep says so, doesn't make it true ... but then again, for Pep: humble = licking his balls, and obeying without question ... that applies for everyone except Messi, who can once in a while miss training sessions, turn up late, etc., and there is no problem -- because everyone is equal; just that some are more equal than others ...
You just have to listen Villa to realize, he was valencia star playing as CF and now at barcelona he would play as GK if the team need it. Villa is an incredible human being and a great team mate, Samu (great dude) and Ibrahimovic (bitch) a prima donnas.
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everyone knows Villa is humble by anyone's standards ... I was talking about your second sentence ...
we agree on Samu, even though somehow you still don't condemn Pep's idea that he thinks he is bigger than the team ...
as for Zlatan:
which manager has ever had a problem with before or after Guardiola? Capello and Mourinho LOVED Zlatan ... you think they would have tolerated him if he was not a team player, but a primadonna? at Milan, Max Allegri talks about how much he admires Zlatan's work ethic, even in training ... his self-confidence is extremely high, no doubt, but he never lets that compromise his attitude towards his teammates and coach ...
I've had this conversation about Pep before, and Dan can attest: Pep talks like he works with a philosophy, which is great because that purity of idea and implementation is what Barcelona has been all about since Cruyff changed things; but then Pep suddenly resorts to double standards, and forever sullies any notion of purity, and morality ...
the problem with Zlatan was that he saw Messi being treated differently, and he asked to be treated the same ...
if working with a team unit / equality philosophy, I see no logical justification to make exceptions and treat any individual differently ... but if one is making exceptions, then either they should divulge their logical reasons that would defy my assertion; or they should stop pretending to be all high and mighty, and own up to their realities ...
Pep took the coward's way out with both Eto'o and Zlatan ... they are two of my favourite players, who were playing for my favourite team ... for ruining that experience for them AND for me, Pep can never be forgiven ...
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si lo prefieres, dime en castellano ... puedes entender lo que escribí (por arriba), no?
si lo prefieres, dime en castellano ... puedes entender lo que escribí (por arriba), no?
Hace unas ruedas de prensa Guardiola dijo "En este equipo vamos todos a una, y quien se cree por encima, se marcha".
Esto es precisamente lo que pasó con Samu y Zlatan, el primero es un tipo entrañable y muy querido en el vestuario, pero se creia con licencia para mandar más que el Papa, hay un partido contra el Betis que iban perdiendo 2-0 y Pep decide pasar a Eto'o a la banda, este no le hizo caso y se quedó en el centro (marcó 2 goles).
El caso de Ibra es bien distinto; la primera mitad de temporada perfecta, Zlatan metia goles el equipo ganaba y todo era de color rosa, hasta que Messi estubo 3 partido sin rascar bola y el técnico decidió cambiar su posicion de jugador desequilibrante por banda derecha a falso 9, donde participaba en el juego asociativo con los jugones Xavi e Iniesta y terminaba la jugada... pero ahí delante estaba Ibrahimovic que le hacia de tapón a Messi y cuando Guardiola intentó que Zlatan jugará partiendo desde la banda buscando diagonales en profundidad, como hacen ahora los 2 delanteros Pedro y Villa, este se negó y ahí empezaron sus celos hacia Messi, llegó al tramo final de temporada en un estado de forma y ganas de sumar en el vestuario lamentables y fue ahí, cuando dimitió como jugador y compañero donde hasta Bojan le quitó el sitio.
Pep se ha equivocado al no saber gestionar y motivar a Zlatan, esto está claro pero también es loable que no haya dicho nunca una palabra más alta que la otra cuando Zlatan ha ido rajando de el por Tierra, mar y aire. Me consta que Eto'o no guarda rencor a Guardiola y que inclusive lo queria para el Inter.
Un entrenador tiene que tomar medidas impopulares por el bien del equipo y los resultados y funcionamiento del equipo demuestran que hizo lo correcto, eso si, el capricho de cambiar a Samu por Ibra resultó un fiasco para el Barça económicamente hablando y que todavía arrastran.
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Esto es precisamente lo que pasó con Samu y Zlatan, el primero es un tipo entrañable y muy querido en el vestuario, pero se creia con licencia para mandar más que el Papa, hay un partido contra el Betis que iban perdiendo 2-0 y Pep decide pasar a Eto'o a la banda, este no le hizo caso y se quedó en el centro (marcó 2 goles).
haha, Samu!
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el capricho de cambiar a Samu por Ibra resultó un fiasco para el Barça económicamente hablando y que todavía arrastran.
ya conocían los detalles financieros cuando hicieron el acuerdo para el fichaje ... no se modificó durante la temporada ... de dónde viene, de repente, el problema?
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Hace unas ruedas de prensa Guardiola dijo "En este equipo vamos todos a una, y quien se cree por encima, se marcha".
podemos ilusionar y engañar, pero no es el caso:
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if working with a team unit / equality philosophy, I see no logical justification to make exceptions and treat any individual differently ... but if one is making exceptions [(Messi, in this case)], then either they should divulge their logical reasons that would defy my assertion; or they should stop pretending to be all high and mighty, and own up to their realities ...
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El caso de Ibra es bien distinto; la primera mitad de temporada perfecta, Zlatan metia goles el equipo ganaba y todo era de color rosa...
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Originally Posted by Arnau
...hasta que Messi estubo 3 partido sin rascar bola y el técnico decidió cambiar su posicion de jugador desequilibrante por banda derecha a falso 9, donde participaba en el juego asociativo con los jugones Xavi e Iniesta y terminaba la jugada... pero ahí delante estaba Ibrahimovic que le hacia de tapón a Messi y cuando Guardiola intentó que Zlatan jugará partiendo desde la banda buscando diagonales en profundidad, como hacen ahora los 2 delanteros Pedro y Villa, este se negó y ahí empezaron sus celos hacia Messi, llegó al tramo final de temporada en un estado de forma y ganas de sumar en el vestuario lamentables y fue ahí, cuando dimitió como jugador y compañero donde hasta Bojan le quitó el sitio.
si el equipo está ganando, pero Pep cambia las cosas para el beneficio de Messi, y que hace el demérito de Zlatan (quien está jugando bien en este momento), debe pedir disculpas a Zlatan, y tratar de encontrar una solución para él, con él ... si una solución no se puede encontrar en seguida, Pep debe pedir disculpas una vez más ... pero Pep no ha hecho nada como esto ... él simplemente dejó de hablar con Zlatan ... itzaf*ckingdisgrace!
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