I think all we have is 3 videos played on a two-player game by two players' that aren't good at it.
And I'm sick of you who keep f*ing this f*ing that. You sound ridiculous and I'm sure no one takes your comments seriously. Wait for the demo and if it's not up to your heavenly standards buy PES! End of!! For gods sake some of you need a crack round the head at times. 'I'm going to download this, I'm going to steal it, and I’m hard!’ Please shut up.
Biggy, you claim FIFA ™ 07 is ‘sh!t’ yet you make an update for 2006 FIFA World Cup ™ and claim to have copied the physics from FIFA ™ 07!!
After all of what you said NK, I still find FIFA 07 Sh!ty. See, I didn't say that the "ball physics of FIFA 07" in particular are bad!! all that I'm trying to say is that this damn EA team of sh!t is "NOT" listening to any damn word we write on all these forums, and if you think that the game is cool then it's up to you as it is up to me to find it "Sh!ty"
A soccer game, NK, is not only about ball physics, I mean for the love of god: what the f**k is up with the lame robot movements??? is this bad human players?? I don't think so. And what's up with the unnecessary video cuts that we have been asking EA for 3 years now to change them into more interactive style!!!!! is this also a bad "human" player??? I DON'T THINK SO.
I think that everybody can agree with me to a good limit that the "ball physics" are the only thing that they worked on, other than that we still see robotic movements and the same old loads of crap! (omg, they are too much to even mention)
So, how about if you shut up, and leave me and us alone?! good idea I think. no need for "smart ass e-thuggin". keep your ideas about people to your self, or at least just do not act smart! :chew:
__________________ FIFA 08 on Xbox 360, already touched by God!
I wonder what Konami people were high on when they worked on PES 2008, hahaahaha!
All you ever do Biggy is lose respect. And I did respect you at one point.
There is no 'us' in what you say, there's only you acting like this. And I had truth in what I was saying about your update been contradictive...but you're just abusive and downright rude. So you know what? I won't even bother lowering myself to your level Mr. Know it all. You are the only one who should shut up, I'll do you the favour before someone with a smarter mouth tells you in a way that might be on your level...you know...nasty and ignorant.
And no, I'm not an E-thug...you've been that all along. Calling people gay and lame then telling people who ask an innocent question to 'shut up'. You called me lame already before just for saying FIFA 07 looked promising. You’re the thug here and you need to get told to shut up, not me. I'm not the one being rude to people.
So grow up or shut up and stop been so sensitive...you're 21 years old! Same age as me and I don't go round this forum telling people they're gay and lame, because I have respect for people and speak to others the way I would like to be spoken to. Clearly, you have no respect, so don't expect people to show you any.
Nick.
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I agree the two players going at it in the vids were not playing to the games potential (they were basically running up the middle of the field then going to the sides of the 18 yard box and crossing it in...they never took their fingers off the turbo buttons..which made them lose the ball frequently)
The ball physics and spin do look better than in 06 or WC 06 and the passes appear to be less accurate (which is a good thing imo and something WE/PES can take an example from as that game has a pretty precise passing engine)
Ok guys, we really should talk about fifa here not about each other.
The animations are no doubt improved but as Biggy says, and considering the level that games are right now, especially with the next-gen, we don't think they look fluid as they should. And i'm telling this for both games FIFA and WE. Both have players running like robotics cartoon characters. It really needs a new "Fluid animation system" mainly while they are running.
Is Fifa07 better then 06 or WC? Yes. But how big was the step? From the videos so far, not that big.
And the engine really should be changed! They change it every 4 years, but this one is almost 6 years old. The 360 is going to have a new engine, i just don't think the pc version is going to have that new engine for this years games, they must have some kind of agreement to sell more 360s. Maybe in 2008 the PC version is going to have the new engine.
I'd say the robotic movements have something to do with current gen consoles. You have to remember that the base system for most multiplatform games is still the PS2, which isnt very powerful and we all know EA never uses the most of any system. Yes, even the "great" PES/WE has robotic movements, sometimes I think they look more fake than FIFA's and this is coming from a person who likes PES/WE more than FIFA.
I'd say the robotic movements have something to do with current gen consoles. You have to remember that the base system for most multiplatform games is still the PS2, which isnt very powerful and we all know EA never uses the most of any system. Yes, even the "great" PES/WE has robotic movements, sometimes I think they look more fake than FIFA's and this is coming from a person who likes PES/WE more than FIFA.
I am sure Next-Gen version of FIFA 07 (that has the new 'secret' game-engine that EA SPORTS won't mention! They are mean lol) and Next-gen PES will both have much smoother and improved animations. I know 06 World Cup demo I downloaded for my xbox 360 looked and played MUCH better than on my PC. There were more animations and much smoother gameplay. Was cool.
So I'd say any hardcore football fan should hold out for the Next-gen if the "robotic" movements of current-gen are ruining the fun for ya.
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Well, I must admit, I have no intention of getting FIFA on current gen, because as stated previously, the movements do look very false and robotic. However, I can't wait to see when EA fully concentrate making FIFA for both the Xbox 360 and PS3. I am sure that animations will be much smoother. I've always hated the way that players don't seem to turn their heads to face the ball, they tilt it, and that makes things look a bit....well, stupid really. As we all know, next gen will allow movement that flows and looks realistic.
For some reason I think 360 PES6 will only be a graphical update of current gen like RTWC 06 was on the 360. Hell would freeze over before Konami wouldnt support a non-Japanese company first, which means the game will probably be made for the PS2 and graphically enhanced for the 360. I think we will have to wait for the PS3 version of PES before its really next-gen and not just a PS2 port.
For some reason I think 360 PES6 will only be a graphical update of current gen like RTWC 06 was on the 360. Hell would freeze over before Konami wouldnt support a non-Japanese company first, which means the game will probably be made for the PS2 and graphically enhanced for the 360. I think we will have to wait for the PS3 version of PES before its really next-gen and not just a PS2 port.
As much as I hate to say it, but I think you will be right (althought I hope not )
Anyways, PES6 will be demo-ed at the Liepzig Xbox convention next week on the 360 so we will find out soon enough
In the meantime I finally want some news on the 360 version of Fifa 07.....that they havn't said anything makes me worried that it will be a late release (Early 2007 if not actually skipping this year and coming out next fall)
As much as I hate to say it, but I think you will be right (althought I hope not )
Anyways, PES6 will be demo-ed at the Liepzig Xbox convention next week on the 360 so we will find out soon enough
In the meantime I finally want some news on the 360 version of Fifa 07.....that they havn't said anything makes me worried that it will be a late release (Early 2007 if not actually skipping this year and coming out next fall)
No no, I believe Konami will take advantage of Next-Gen such as more animations, that ALONE makes it look more realistic, just compare the animation flow of 2006 World Cup on PC to what EA did on the 360, the game just 'looks' better and feels more 'fluid'. PC is jerky animations in comparison.
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No no, I believe Konami will take advantage of Next-Gen such as more animations, that ALONE makes it look more realistic, just compare the animation flow of 2006 World Cup on PC to what EA did on the 360, the game just 'looks' better and feels more 'fluid'. PC is jerky animations in comparison.
Nick.
Why the inverted commas? Are you one of these people who wiggle their fingers in reality aswell?
Heey people chill down!! I am sure this Fifa will be fantastic...you can look at those video's but DONT take them serious! Just DONT! Wait for the demo. Everything what EA says is promising! The shooting, the passing, the movement, online! Its all great! Lets wait for the demo and decide. And btw, for people that say Fifa didnt develope well over the years...I love PES, but it PES5 isnt playing any different then PES 1 or 2, wich where 5 years ago! Now compare Fifa 06 to Fifa 02
No but seriously, lets just wait and see, if its bad then im the first one to admit it. But all the previews, interviews etc. sound VERY promising! And that wasnt always like that, because every year they said that it was good, but not as good as PES. Now they say that it might be better...who knows.
I am sure this Fifa will be fantastic...you can look at those video's but DONT take them serious! Just DONT! Wait for the demo. Everything what EA says is promising! The shooting, the passing, the movement, online! Its all great! Lets wait for the demo and decide. And btw, for people that say Fifa didnt develope well over the years...I love PES, but it PES5 isnt playing any different then PES 1 or 2, wich where 5 years ago! Now compare Fifa 06 to Fifa 02 
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