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  • #46
    Why?

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    • #47
      Because one should probably be drinking American beer every day.

      I think microbrewing has made America now the worlds greatest beer producing nation. Honestly.

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      • #48
        Turned 21.

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        • #49
          Congratulations, from one country where turning 21 means **** all to another!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Sir Calumn View Post
            Because one should probably be drinking American beer every day.

            I think microbrewing has made America now the worlds greatest beer producing nation. Honestly.
            No way in the world. That is a ridiculous statement. Then again, you only discovered porter a couple of months ago, so I'll let you go on your beer knowledge for now. At least you know your scotch single malts


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            • #51
              Haha.... yeah I am not much of a beer aficianado...... but we can take this question to the best thread in years, the alcohol thread....

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              • #52
                American beer, even microbrewed, is still overwhelmingly disappointing. There are some good ones, but the odds are firmly stacked against.
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                • #53
                  Not in Wisconsin. They all follow the German purity law and generally are of very high quality. A lot of the **** from the West Coast I don't care for though.

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                  • #54
                    I'm SURE there would be some good microbreweries in the US. Just as there are in loads of big beer drinking countries. US mass produced lager is crap, but that's not the argument now, is it.


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                    • #55
                      When I was in Germany a LOT of places made their own beer, which is what you're talking about, but it was rarely better than the major brands. I don't think it's a crime to compare US Microbrews with major brewers in more "traditional" beer producing nations if you're talking strictly quality. It isn't like there is some hidden gem German beer that doesn't get its due.

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                      • #56
                        Not what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about lesser known breweries all over the world.

                        I'm actually agreeing that, there are probably US microbreweries that make great beer. But there are microbreweries here that do too. And in Czech, and in Germany, and in the UK, and in NZ and in loads of places.

                        I'm just saying US mainstream beer doesn't compare to mainstream beer in those beer producing countries (or most of the world to be honest). Mainstream US lager is generally terrible, and so weak flavoured. Bud, Miller etc.

                        But I definitely agree that there would be quality brews from micro-breweries. I'm just pointing out that this isn't unique to the US.


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                        • #57
                          I understood your point. My point was that the mass produced beers in Germany and the UK are generally not going to be much different in quality from the microbrews. At least the ones that are good (not Amstel or Heineken). The whole point was that US Microbreweries are crushing EVERYONE right now. The major beers give a good account of what their country can do and is doing, with the US being the huge exception.

                          Bud and Miller is **** made for women and retard southerners, but its so ubiquitous that even men who should know better drink it. It's also dirt cheap. People drink a lot of Miller here to support local industry, which I don't have a problem with, I just wish they'd support the local microbreweries.

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                          • #58
                            Yeah, they definitely should. People are idiots though.

                            Especially most beer drinkers (even though I'm one).

                            Since I did beer tasting, and studied it quite a bit, one of the things I was taught is that over half of beer choice is based on blind baseless loyalty. And that's quite frustrating! That's why blind tasting is so good.

                            So I guess you're saying American microbrewery beers stand out compared to American major commercial beers. But is this a huge feet?

                            If you're saying American Microbrewery beers are BETTER than microbrewery beers elsewhere, I completely disagree, and think it's a matter of what you've tasted. I'm sure no one from outside of Australia on these forums has tasted James Squire or Little Creatures. And those two are hardly even micro-breweries now, they're HUGE in Australia. On top of that there are LOADS of small breweries here as there also are in Germany, Austria, Czech etc.


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                            • #59
                              Fair enough. I'd put Sprecher and Lakefront against your brands any day, but I'm not speaking from any experience.

                              And for the record, there's something fun about drinking ****ty American Light Beer in extreme quantities. My personal favorite is Busch Light followed by Keystone Light. It would be weird to have a keg party with a good beer, it's like an oxymoron. How can it be a party if there's good beer?
                              Last edited by Nimreitz; 02-04-2012, 09:09:AM.

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                              • #60
                                Boddington's I think is pretty crappy to be honest. For some reason it's one of the British Ales that has really made it in the US, and I don't get why.

                                James Squire do an AWESOME Amber Ale, which is a sort of a Red Ale/Brown Ale I guess. And they do an awesome Golden Ale too - which is very different than most run of the mill Pale Ales (which is a very different type of beer than an IPA - just to be clear).

                                Little Creatures do an awesome, fairly low strength (3.7% I think) ale called Rogers. It's a sort of amber ale too, I guess. They also do what they call a "Bright Ale" which almost looks like a lager in a glass, but tastes quite different.

                                Then there are all the tiny breweries around the place that do all sorts of things. Most places do different varieties of stouts, porters, pale ales, honey beers, honey wheat beers, red ales, brown ales and india pale ales.

                                I generally drink LOADS more ales than lagers, as the variety in lagers doesn't compare to the variety in ales. A lager ALWAYS tastes like a lager. Yeah, you get light ones, heavy ones, metallic tastic, crap tasting, nice tasting, hoppy, floral, etc etc. But they still taste very much like a lager. Ales vary LOADS, and you get so many different flavours coming through. Even your Boddington's is an ale. Lakefront's is a lager - but I'm sure a very nice one. But there are sooo many 'nice lagers'. Black Bavarian I'd be very interested in trying.


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